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    I would like some disscussion on if it is in any departments SOP's to "pull a power meter"..... and not let your power company disconnect the power.

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    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...pulling+meters

    http://forums.firehouse.com/showthre...ctrical+meters

    While you're waiting for replies, if you do a search on "pulling meters" and "electrical meters", there are quite a few past discussions you might find interesting.
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    • #3
      Leave the meter alone. It does not kill the power, it only measures it, much like a speedometer in a car.
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      • #4
        CaptainGonzo is correct. (anyone surprised? )Especially if you are dealing with a newer developed area, or an area that has had it's electrical services upgraded.
        Back in the day, meters where place in series with the service. All power passes though the meter and continued. With this type of meter and socket, it was possible to remove the meter and kill power down stream. Even then it was very hazardous. If you where drawing current at the time you tried to yank the meter, the possibility of arcing from the lugs to the socket to a ground was a real possibility. This, to put it mildly, is bad.
        New meters are place in parallel to the service, and with the electronics installed, there is no need to shunt all the current through. One of the ways to ID this type is if it has a handle that releases the meter from the socket. But if you look close, you will see it doesn't interupt power.
        Unless you are a trained electrician with line experiance, all the proper equipment, a department SOP saying it's OK, permission from the power provider, and a really good reason, leave them alone and call your power company.
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          Electricity is not our friend

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          Last edited by NYSmokey; 09-18-2006, 07:23 AM.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by NYSmokey
            Disclaimer: To PETA, I did not cause this bird to fly there and I didn't film it so don't come after me. RIP crow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by NYSmokey
              Disclaimer: To PETA, I did not cause this bird to fly there and I didn't film it so don't come after me. RIP crow.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DaSharkie
                Never apologize to PETA. As a terrorist organization who has sponsored the outright burning of buildings used for animal testing, as well as donations to the legal defense of suspects in these cases of arson - and you (presumably) as a firefighter - F&CK PETA.
                I agree F**K them along with Earth Liberation Front, etc. I should have turned my sarcasm mode on in that quote
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                  Oh my God I think I just wet myself........film at eleven........
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                    There is a place for all GOD's animals...... right next to the mashed potatoes and corn bread
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Tillerman17
                      Oh my God I think I just wet myself........film at eleven........
                      LMAO!!!!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by CaptainGonzo
                        Leave the meter alone. It does not kill the power, it only measures it, much like a speedometer in a car.

                        DITTO!!!!

                        Call the power company ASAP. Our dispatch calls the power company as soon as it is confirmed a working fire. Too many people get hurt or killed doing that and it doesn't even disconnect the power.

                        They are experts. Let them do it. You wouldn't expect the power company to put out fire would you???
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                        • #13
                          Like Gonzo said LEAVE IT ALONE. Neither I or my crew mess with meters. I always tell them I don't do electricity
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                          • #14
                            I'll never understand why service disconnect switches never became standard/required. It would make it so much easier and safer for us to kill power inside until the power company can kill the main feed.

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                            • #15
                              On my second shift one of the guys on my shift ripped out the power meter. I being the son of an electrician asked him if he knew what he was doing and a year later he still treats me like I am the IDIOT!!

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