yea i got rid of this cuz its outdated topic
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if your having problems or if it is slowing you down attaching the reg to the mask, maybe you should pratice more. there is no way that taking the extra second, ok 2 seconds to clip your mask in can be slowing you down that much.
as far as places that allow guys to keep their masks hooked up and ready to go, and also have their gear right next to that pack, usually its because they are assigned to that pack. that is their pack they use for that shift. that how my career dept is and i belive majority of the the depts do it that do assign people to a company. on my vollie dept, its first come first serve. you dont fight over air packs, or care who is in which one. they are all the same and do the same job.Your a daisy if you do.
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I would follow Dept. policy and keep my mask with my gear. By connecting YOUR mask you are claiming/reserving that pak & the brothers don’t like it. Face it, you say it yourself “for the 2 seconds it took him to unclip my mask and clip his in” it’s not about saving time. Your Lt.is the guy you work for not the Capt. & he told you to stop, STOP.
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I have to agree with the others. You've made your own point that it takes only seconds to switch one mask out with another, so it seems like it would only take seconds to clip yours in.
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If a member that you suggest makes 10% of the runs can unclip a face piece in 2 seconds (your words), this whole thing doesn't seem like that big of a deal.
I say keep your face piece with you so you don't find it broken or lost one day and have to pay for it. Make the connection to the airpack you are sitting in front of at any given time.
Here's a lil more food for thought:
I am guessing that you have quick connects to hook your personal face piece into any given airpack. We have the same thing here in Memphis. I never ride with the regulator already hooked into the pack. The quick connect regulator is easier to hook up than getting the demand valve into the face piece.
Therfore I always leave the demand valve connected and connect the regulator lines only after donning the pack. It takes about 1/2 a second.RK
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Exactly what type of department do you operate in?
Don't all of your members get fit tested? If so, why does it sound like using any old mask is fine?
Question: What would you do?
First off, I have never heard of any department in my County that would even think of allowing their members to keep their personal masks on the apparatus, preconnected to the SCBA. You have proven how much of a mistake this entire concept is.
Question: Do you think some of us wanting to keep our masks on the scba is useless?
Yup, 100% useless. Members who do not take the time to properly don their SCBA before entering an IDLH atmosphere scare me. I am having a very hard time believing that members who feel as if they don't have the time to clip their masks onto the SCBA while enroute, probably are not taking the time to make sure their hoods are on correctly, coats buckled up, etc.Chris Shields
Lieutenant / EMT
Haz-Mat Technician
East Syracuse Fire Dept
Onondaga County, NY
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SIGNAL99COM, quick question for you....do you wear your SCBA mask, hood, and helmet while still riding seated in the truck? and are you on air or not while still riding seated in the truck?"This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
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Originally posted by o2cr125mxit was just me and another crew member who is typically our pump operater (doesnt have much motivation).Originally posted by o2cr125mxUpon arrival, one of the members of my engine who makes less then id say 10% of the calls a year, and in my opinion is incompetent in most basic firefighting skills (never even seen him on air)Originally posted by o2cr125mxI just feel like our officers may see my points and realize i have a valid point, but since they are the officers, there way has to be right (remember, the Capt. like our idea until the LT. made a stink about it). :-(
My opinion is you should keep all your PPE together. Unless you are assigned to wear that particular SCBA, you should not "mark it" as yours, which is what it seems your are doing.-------------------
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Originally posted by Bones42SIGNAL99COM, quick question for you....do you wear your SCBA mask, hood, and helmet while still riding seated in the truck? and are you on air or not while still riding seated in the truck?
You asked if I was on air while enroute to the alarm. Who does this?Chris Shields
Lieutenant / EMT
Haz-Mat Technician
East Syracuse Fire Dept
Onondaga County, NY
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Maybe while you are sitting there, not on air, would be a good time to attach your own personal mask that you keep with your gear to your SCBA. That way you don't have to keep your mask on the pack at all times."They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
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Originally posted by SIGNAL99COMYou asked if I was on air while enroute to the alarm. Who does this?"This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?
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