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    Hi, I am an Engineer for Los Angeles County Fire Department. I am looking into the 48/96 (48 hours on / 96 hours off) shift schedule. I am trying to build a list of departments that are currently useing this schedule or are in a trial period prior to voteing to make it permenant. Anyone know of some fire departments useing this schedule?

  • #2
    You may want to try a search. I believe this schedule has been discussed a few times on here...
    The comments made by me are my opinions only. They DO NOT reflect the opinions of my employer(s). If you have an issue with something I may say, take it up with me, either by posting in the forums, emailing me through my profile, or PMing me through my profile.
    We are all adults so there is no need to act like a child........
    IACOJ

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    • #3
      San bernardino city,Norco and i believe the Colton fire departments are on that schedule.

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      • #4
        Re: 48/96 Shift Schedule

        Originally posted by fyerdriver
        Hi, I am an Engineer for Los Angeles County Fire Department. I am looking into the 48/96 (48 hours on / 96 hours off) shift schedule. I am trying to build a list of departments that are currently useing this schedule or are in a trial period prior to voteing to make it permenant. Anyone know of some fire departments useing this schedule?

        Who would want to work a 48 if you run all the time like we do on the Right Coast????
        Stay Safe and Well Out There....

        Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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        • #5
          Update-

          Hello- I have written several threads on the issue. To sum it
          up, the 48/96 is great for the FDs that run light, medium to
          semi-busy calls.

          The County of San Bernardino FD had the schedule and went
          away from it due to some of their Fontana stations getting
          slammed. (24-30 calls a 24 hour shift)

          So, yes. I have said if youre super busy, this might not be
          for you. But the advantages are huge! Imagine going to work
          basicly one a week, less driving for you. More time for the
          kids. Less wear and tear on your car, equipment at work.
          Dumping less chemicals down the toilets (cleaning tiolets
          every day) and your FD is saving money because you arent
          using the cleaning supplies everyday as well. The list
          goes on and on.

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          • #6
            48 on and 96 off......What are you trying to do to your wife?
            If your kids are young she would have to get the kids to the sitter, pick them up and cater to their every need alone for 48 hours. If the kids are teenagers you might as well call her Chaufer. If you work out of a busy house then your first day off is shot to catch up on sleep so now she has to pull a 72 hour shift. Then her first day off ( your second) she'll be in therapy. That leaves you with the next day of her mad at you for the situation you put her in the next day to make up and then the cycle starts all over again.
            Then your mutual partner (shift trades)gets all whacked. Early and late reliefs would be a B**tch because after 48 hours everyone wants to get the heck out of there. Your kids got a ball game.....who is going to drive in for a few hours? You blow in sick....48 hours off your bank.
            I work on the right coast also and just looking at it quick I can see 100:1 negatives to positives.
            With any wheel we work in this job (except staff) the family takes a hit. Ask their opinion before pushing for it. It might just save you half of your retirement.
            IACOJ

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            • #7
              I worked 48/96 and loved it. Less driving and then 4 days off to do what I wanted. Not a super busy hall so the shift was perfect. Other people work 4and 4 12 hour shifts - not liking that! Seems mom has to do lots over 96 hours instead of 48 and if you work nights on your last 12 then your catching up on sleep the next day also anyway.

              Either way you look at it shift work sucks - 48 / 96 is the way to go - if your not a super busy station.

              For now I work 8-5 monday to fri - terrible!
              -I have learned people will forget what you said,
              -People will forget what you did,
              -But people will never forget how you made them feel!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mulldog
                I work on the right coast also and just looking at it quick I can see 100:1 negatives to positives.
                With any wheel we work in this job (except staff) the family takes a hit. Ask their opinion before pushing for it. It might just save you half of your retirement.
                Mull- No offensive, I think you would need someone to sit
                down and really explain the whole thing to you. More and
                more FDs (California and non-CA) are going to it. And more
                and more people working it, love it and dont want to go back.

                when you go to the store, do you make muliple trips for milk,
                bread, eggs, cheese, etc? No, ofcourse not. Its the same
                concept, go to work once a week and come home for 4 straight.

                Less driving back and forth and more time with the family.
                And LESS GAS! And less FD employees on the road everyday equals
                less smog and gridlock. Open up your mind man and get out of that
                East Coast only thinking.

                It is very basic, works and more people are going to it.

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                • #9
                  We switched from a 24-48 to a 48-96 about two years ago with no cost to the district. We just added two days to our FLSA cycle to make the cycles line up right. If your vacation days are an even # you get 4 extra days off at the end of of it. If they are odd #'s you should start your vacation on the second day so you don't have to come back for one day then go off for four.
                  It only took a month working this schedule to convince the anti 48's that this was the way to go. We have shifts where we could run up to 18 calls a day and nobody here needs 24 hours to recover. If you need 24 hours rest after a busy shift then I suggest you make an appointment to see your doctor cause

                  you're outta shape!
                  IAFF

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                  • #10
                    if your looking for 4 days off whats wrong with this
                    4 days on
                    -2 12 hour day shifts then 2 14 hour night shifts
                    4 days off and the tour starts up again
                    FTM-PTB/Leather Forever

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                    • #11
                      N8sfd333

                      Your suggestion requires hiring a whole 4th shift. 48/96 is the same as 24/48 just everything is multiplied by 2 and using only 3 shifts.

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                      • #12
                        Ugh...

                        No thanks on those split 12 or 14 hour shifts. No thanks and
                        pretty much everyone works 24 hour shifts out here with a
                        3 platoon system. (A,B,C)

                        Wake up and look outside the box. The 1 on, 2 off system is
                        old and geared just for management. 2/4 is sweet. Who doesnt
                        want to save gas and wear/tear on their cars?

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                        • #13
                          Only one drawback to working the 48 hour shift compared to a regular rotation with four platoons. 3 platoons working 48 on 96 off equals 2960 hours worked. Working a regular 4 platoons 4 on 4 off hours add up to roughly 2290 hours per year.
                          It was always a bone of contention because the dispatchers made the same amount of money as we did working a four platoon system where we were on a 3 platoon system working more hours for the same amount of money!
                          Check your numbers before you change anything!
                          Dave
                          -I have learned people will forget what you said,
                          -People will forget what you did,
                          -But people will never forget how you made them feel!

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                          • #14
                            It's kinda hard to work 2290 hours per year when your FLSA cycle requires a 56 hour work week.
                            IAFF

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                            • #15
                              If you need 24 hours rest after a busy shift then I suggest you make an appointment to see your doctor cause

                              Snowball
                              What does being in shape have to do with being mentally sound?
                              We work a 4 group system, run 5000 calls a year, inspections(1000+), training, house duties and our down time is 2200 hours. We work 2- 10 hour days and 2- 14 hour nights. Your first night maybe a breeze but after productivity on the second day I would bet that everyone is not on their A game. The Driver has the biggest challenge after being up and down for 48 hours is he really as mentally sharp as he copuld be?
                              Sleep depravation is one of the leading causes for accidents. I would be intersted in seeing a study on accidents with that schedual vs. the other ones.

                              Califbou
                              I am not opposed to change and often think outside of the box. That is why I added the strain that it would put on the family because you have 2 to depend on and depend on you. Think about it and ask your family which they would prefer. Maybe on a 3 platoon system it works for you but you also stated that it does not work for a busy house. So I believe we agree. As for the right coast, well we have been down that road before and we can get off the subject and bust eachothers balls again if you wish. 11/2" hose carrying, plastic helmet wearing ect ect. Just busting don't get all worked up. I know you wear a real helmet.

                              Either way the post started out with a person asking for opinions...I gave mine.
                              IACOJ

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