I know this should have went in the wildfire area, but nobody seems to use that part of the forum much. I wanted more people to see this thread.
Has anybody nationaly been following this? I have not seen anything on Firehouse yet, so maybe it has not made the rounds of the National sene yet.
There is some major battles being fought here in Montana over the entire wildland fire fighting approach.
Here are some cut and pasts from a MT newsletter I get.
High Cost Of Fighting Wildfires Questioned (Billings Gazette)
By Allison Farrell
HELENA - After the state's most expensive fire season ever, lawmakers are
questioning how the state spends public money fighting wildfires and how
much money it spends protecting private homes tucked into the forests.
The Legislative Finance Committee on Friday asked Legislative Fiscal Analyst
Clayton Schenk to find out if an audit of state fire spending practices is
possible and how much it would cost. Schenk said he would report to the
committee at its December meeting.
Chief among state concerns is the "exponentially increasing" cost of
protecting private homes that border burning wildlands. While many rural
properties bordering forests are assessed an annual fire protection fee, the
amount the property owners pay toward their total fire bill is "minimal,"
said Bud Clinch, director of the state Department of Natural Resources and
Conservation.
"That amount of money is so minimal, it never comes close to covering the
entire cost," Clinch said. "The rest of the state of Montana picks up the
bill."
The first 20 acres of a property in a designated "fire protection district"
is assessed $30 a year, with each additional acre costing property owners 19
cents a year. All told, this tax contributes about $2 million a year to the
state's fire fighting budget.
The state's total bill for this year's fires is expected to total $27
million.
Years ago, the only structures on the borders of forests were cabins, Clinch
said. Now, trophy homes and subdivisions are crowding into the trees,
forcing all taxpayers to subsidize their fire protection costs.
Protecting the homes lining the O'Brien Creek drainage south of Missoula and
in other border areas cost the state a lot of money this past fire season,
Clinch told lawmakers. An "exorbitant" number of helicopters and fire
retardant foam were needed to protect homes from the burning woods
surrounding them.
While lawmakers want to look into how state money is diverted to protect
private homes, that's not all they want to examine.
Legislators want state auditors to investigate the state's practice of
initially attacking fires, find out how fires that cross jurisdictions are
paid for and look into various contract and service costs.
"It seems that this firefighting is escalating," said Senate Minority Leader
Jon Tester, D-Big Sandy. "Where's the money going? Who's receiving it and
how effective are the techniques that are being used to fight fires?"
This proposed audit isn't meant to pick apart the fire receipts, but to
examine the overarching policies that guide state spending, said Terry
Johnson, a principal fiscal analyst.
The state Natural Resources Department has developed its own spending
policies based on best practices, Clinch said, since lawmakers have never
set any fire spending policies for the department. That all may change, he
added.
Rep. Dave Lewis, R-Helena, said he's heard disturbing reports that federal
firefighting crews have, in some cases, turned down help from state crews.
House Minority Whip Monica Lindeen, D-Huntley, questioned the need to post
National Guard crews on forest fires after she said she saw them "playing
cards and sleeping" while on duty this year.
Clinch said he welcomes any audits and said the department will follow anypolicy guidelines the state sets.
"I'm well aware there's an incredible amount of money spent here," Clinch
said. "I'm not claiming it's perfect."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Group to sue over firefighting[NL]By SHERRY DEVLIN of the Missoulian
Forest Service should study environmental, social effects, employees'
association says
Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics will file suit against the
U.S. Forest Service this week, demanding that the agency formally and
publicly evaluate the environmental and social effects of wildland
firefighting."Too many firefighters die each year in a fruitless and
self-defeating war against fire," said Andy Stahl, executive director of the
Oregon-based group of 12,000 former and current Forest Service employees and
agency watchdogs.
The first-ever lawsuit challenging the Forest Service's firefighting mission
and practices, the complaint will be filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in
Missoula - because, Stahl said, "Missoula is the nerve center of a huge fire
industrial complex."
"The Forest Service has never, not once in its history, weighed the pros and
cons of firefighting," said Marc Fink, the Western Environmental Law Center
attorney representing FSEE in the lawsuit.
And yet, firefighters die every year, "trying to fight an act of nature,"
Stahl said.
Twenty-six people have died in firefighting-related incidents so far this
year; more than 900 wildland firefighters have died since 1910, the year the
federal government declared war on wildfire.
Stahl said FSEE's board of directors decided to expand its mission to
include "ending the war on fire" about two years ago, shortly after four
central Washington firefighters died in the Thirtymile fire.
An investigation eventually concluded that fire bosses broke all 10 of the
agency's standard safety rules, and their mistakes left firefighters cut off
from the only escape route out of a dead-end canyon.
All four of the firefighters died in their emergency fire shelters.
"We can't think of a more appropriate organization to come to the defense of
wildland firefighters or to hold our agency accountable for the unwarranted
risk it places on its employees," Stahl said. "Who better to question this
unjustified loss of life and squandering of almost a billion dollars a
year?"
Fighting wildfires is analogous to "putting fans on the coast of Florida to
blow the hurricanes away," Stahl said, "or trying to prevent earthquakes.
"Fighting wildfires doesn't work either. It just creates bigger fires later
and a forest health problem."
In the complaint to be filed with U.S. District Judge Don Molloy, FSEE
attorneys recount the history of wildland firefighting and the changes
brought to Western forests by fire suppression.
"As a result of the all-out effort to suppress fires, the annual acreage
consumed by wildfires in the lower 48 states dropped from 40 million to 50
million acres a year in the early 1930s to about 5 million acres in the
1970s," says the complaint.
"Decades of aggressive firefighting and fire suppression have drastically
changed the structure, characteristics and fire behavior of Western
forests," it continues. "Decades of aggressive firefighting on national
forests has resulted in thousands of injuries and hundreds of deaths for
employees of the Forest Service and other federal agencies."
At $1 billion a year, fighting fires is now one of the agency's most
expensive undertakings.
As its entree into a full-blown examination of firefighting practices and
impacts, the suit questions the use of chemical fire retardants in wildland
firefighting.
The Forest Service uses an average of 15 million gallons of fire retardant
each year, with up to 40 million gallons dropped in some years.
And while the chemicals are known to have adverse effects on water quality
and fish, the Forest Service has never prepared an environmental impact
statement on the use of chemical fire retardants, the lawsuit says. Nor has
the agency formally considered alternatives to that use.
The complaint lists several instances where fire retardants were blamed for
fish kills, including the Bircher fire in southwestern Colorado in July
2000.
The fertilizer in fire retardant can cause nitrate poisoning in animals, the
suit continues, and may cause impacts to human health.
By insisting that an EIS be prepared evaluating the pros and cons of
chemical fire retardants, the lawsuit would force the Forest Service to
rethink its entire firefighting program, Stahl said.
"It is time to evaluate which fires should be fought and which should not be
fought," he said. "It's time to focus on making communities and homes more
fire resistant. We know how to do that. We know how that works.
"And we should simply stop fighting particular classes of fires - for
instance, those that burn in the early spring or late fall, when conditions
are conducive to low-intensity fire."
Some wildfires should be suppressed, Stahl said. "But many fewer and with
much more sensitivity to the pros and cons of doing so."
Under the National Environmental Policy Act, federal agencies must write anEIS for "any proposed federal action that may significantly affect the
quality of the human environment."
And every EIS must include not only an analysis of the proposed action, but
of alternatives to that action and any "irreversible and irretrievable
commitment of resources which would be involved if implemented."
Certainly, Stahl said, wildland firefighting is a major federal action.
Certainly, he said, it significantly affects the environment.
"NEPA is the mechanism by which the Forest Service can engage with the
public in deciding how and where and when to fight fires," he said. "That's
what NEPA is supposed to do - to help federal agencies make better-informed
decisions, to insist on a balancing of the pros and cons."
FSEE's membership is wholeheartedly behind the lawsuit's call for scrutiny,
according to Stahl. Everyone involved, though, knows they are seeking "a
complete paradigm shift in the Forest Service."
"But it is possible," he said. "Everyone knows the system is broken and that
bureaucratic inertia favors the status quo."
"The first step is to shine a light and take the hard look that NEPA
requires," Stahl said. "Let's expose the benefits and the costs of
firefighting, including the human lives lost."
Firefighting policy defended
By SHERRY DEVLIN of the Missoulian
Interior assistant questions call for EIS
Fire is a necessary part of nature and "a good tool," an assistant secretary
of the Interior said Monday.
But the federal government is not going to stop fighting forest fires, said
Rebecca Watson, a Helena lawyer and Bush administration appointee.
Watson's comments came in response to a complaint to be filed Tuesday by
Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics challenging wildland
firefighting on social and environmental grounds.
"I think people in Montana might take issue with a lawsuit that says you
should not suppress fires," she said. "There are many Montanans living in
the wildland-urban interface who have an expectation that their federal
government, state government, county government will protect them from
wildfires."
Watson and top federal land managers, tribal leaders and state foresters
will meet in Arizona this week to review the 2003 fire season and discuss
firefighting costs, implementation of the National Fire Plan and PresidentBush's Healthy Forests Initiative.
"The whole point of the Healthy Forests Initiative and the National Fire
Plan is to get out of the fire suppression business by restoring the health
of the land and reducing the prevalence of catastrophic wildfires, so fire
can be used as a tool," said Watson, who oversees land and mineral
management at the Interior Department.
Federal land managers have changed their approach to firefighting in recent
years, she said, and actually do allow more acres to burn.
"There is now an understanding that fire is a part of nature, and that we
need to restore these landscapes so fire can be reintroduced," Watson said.
"We understand that fire is a good tool, but we also understand that there
are limitations."
On Tuesday, FSEEE will file suit in U.S. District Court in Missoula, hoping
to force the Forest Service to write an environmental impact statement
weighing the pros and cons of wildland firefighting - beginning with a look
at the use of chemical fire retardants.
Firefighters die every year "trying to fight an act of nature," without any
consideration being given to ending the federal government's "war on fire,"
said Andy Stahl, executive director of FSEEE, whose 12,000 members are
former and current Forest Service employees and agency watchdogs.
It is time, he said, for someone to hold the federal government accountable
"for the unwarranted risk it places on its employees."
On Monday, the complaint received the endorsement of the Western Fire
Ecology Center, which has also questioned the government's firefighting
policies in recent years.
"Firefighting is extremely hazardous duty that takes the lives of young
people," said Timothy Ingalsbee, the group's director. "It also damages the
environment; in some cases, the impacts of firefighting are more significant
than the effects of the fire itself."
"Neither the direct nor the indirect impacts of firefighting have ever been
analyzed," he said. "There is no accountability."
In Washington, D.C., Watson said all are in agreement that "the No. 1 goal
in fighting fires is to keep our firefighters safe."
"There is a constant message that a piece of property is not worth a humanlife," she said. "The culture of wildland firefighting is changing. Our goal
now is a different goal than it was 20 years ago. The goal now is forest
restoration."
At this week's meeting in Arizona, members of the Wildland Fire Leadership
Council will talk about ways to contain the cost of fighting the largest
wildfires, Watson said.
"We'll look at the recurring themes," she said. "What are the criticisms we
have received on costs? What are the problems? What are the solutions? What
are our next steps?"
The Bush administration is not waiting for Congress to enact healthy forests
legislation to begin work on the wildfire issue or thinning in the national
forests, Watson added.
Every year, she said, land managers are approving more fuel-reduction
projects and prescribed burns.
But FSEEE is wrong if its members are suggesting a radical reduction in the
number of fires that are actively suppressed, Watson said.
"Is fire appropriate everywhere? No," she said. "You do not want fire around
communities and important infrastructure. And you also have to address the
air-pollution impacts of fires. There are times when you don't want a fire."
Watson said she believes both fire and land managers have looked at the pros
and cons of firefighting over the years.
FSEEE's request for an environmental impact statement on firefighting is
simply unnecessary, she said.
"If we did an EIS, what would we be doing in the meantime?" Watson asked.
"Let these fires burn while we analyze whether suppression is acceptable? I
think that is questionable.
"I'm certainly not convinced that we need to have an EIS on whether we
suppress fires or not. I think the public tells us pretty clearly that they
want these fires put out."
I know that this is a distant issue to a lot of our Eastern folks, but it has the potential to turn a very sizeable part of the fire service right on its head. It will most likely have a very hard felt national impact.
There are many factors and ways to look at the issue. I know personaly that the way the Federal Gov fihts wildfire is not that efficient. They throw a LOT of money at it, but the problem just keeps on getting worse.
In 2002, wildfires burned 6.9 million acres at a cost of $1.6 billion dollars. That is more then 2 years of Fire Act Grant money!!!
I have worked wildfire with USFS, BLM, and Montana DNRC. They do a lot of good work. But, things are getting so warped out of hand that IMO something does need to change.
I look at my MT Vol department (30 guys covering 740 square miles) and how much wildfire we put out on a inmeasureable fraction of a Federal fire budget for just ONE 5 Man BLM egine crew and I just cant bring myself to stand up and defend the federal wildfire system.
That 1.6 billion would have gone SO much further in the hands of vol departments and more focused efforts.
Anyway, just thought I would bring it to you attention, I will keep posting any more articles I get.
Has anybody nationaly been following this? I have not seen anything on Firehouse yet, so maybe it has not made the rounds of the National sene yet.
There is some major battles being fought here in Montana over the entire wildland fire fighting approach.
Here are some cut and pasts from a MT newsletter I get.
High Cost Of Fighting Wildfires Questioned (Billings Gazette)
By Allison Farrell
HELENA - After the state's most expensive fire season ever, lawmakers are
questioning how the state spends public money fighting wildfires and how
much money it spends protecting private homes tucked into the forests.
The Legislative Finance Committee on Friday asked Legislative Fiscal Analyst
Clayton Schenk to find out if an audit of state fire spending practices is
possible and how much it would cost. Schenk said he would report to the
committee at its December meeting.
Chief among state concerns is the "exponentially increasing" cost of
protecting private homes that border burning wildlands. While many rural
properties bordering forests are assessed an annual fire protection fee, the
amount the property owners pay toward their total fire bill is "minimal,"
said Bud Clinch, director of the state Department of Natural Resources and
Conservation.
"That amount of money is so minimal, it never comes close to covering the
entire cost," Clinch said. "The rest of the state of Montana picks up the
bill."
The first 20 acres of a property in a designated "fire protection district"
is assessed $30 a year, with each additional acre costing property owners 19
cents a year. All told, this tax contributes about $2 million a year to the
state's fire fighting budget.
The state's total bill for this year's fires is expected to total $27
million.
Years ago, the only structures on the borders of forests were cabins, Clinch
said. Now, trophy homes and subdivisions are crowding into the trees,
forcing all taxpayers to subsidize their fire protection costs.
Protecting the homes lining the O'Brien Creek drainage south of Missoula and
in other border areas cost the state a lot of money this past fire season,
Clinch told lawmakers. An "exorbitant" number of helicopters and fire
retardant foam were needed to protect homes from the burning woods
surrounding them.
While lawmakers want to look into how state money is diverted to protect
private homes, that's not all they want to examine.
Legislators want state auditors to investigate the state's practice of
initially attacking fires, find out how fires that cross jurisdictions are
paid for and look into various contract and service costs.
"It seems that this firefighting is escalating," said Senate Minority Leader
Jon Tester, D-Big Sandy. "Where's the money going? Who's receiving it and
how effective are the techniques that are being used to fight fires?"
This proposed audit isn't meant to pick apart the fire receipts, but to
examine the overarching policies that guide state spending, said Terry
Johnson, a principal fiscal analyst.
The state Natural Resources Department has developed its own spending
policies based on best practices, Clinch said, since lawmakers have never
set any fire spending policies for the department. That all may change, he
added.
Rep. Dave Lewis, R-Helena, said he's heard disturbing reports that federal
firefighting crews have, in some cases, turned down help from state crews.
House Minority Whip Monica Lindeen, D-Huntley, questioned the need to post
National Guard crews on forest fires after she said she saw them "playing
cards and sleeping" while on duty this year.
Clinch said he welcomes any audits and said the department will follow anypolicy guidelines the state sets.
"I'm well aware there's an incredible amount of money spent here," Clinch
said. "I'm not claiming it's perfect."
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Group to sue over firefighting[NL]By SHERRY DEVLIN of the Missoulian
Forest Service should study environmental, social effects, employees'
association says
Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics will file suit against the
U.S. Forest Service this week, demanding that the agency formally and
publicly evaluate the environmental and social effects of wildland
firefighting."Too many firefighters die each year in a fruitless and
self-defeating war against fire," said Andy Stahl, executive director of the
Oregon-based group of 12,000 former and current Forest Service employees and
agency watchdogs.
The first-ever lawsuit challenging the Forest Service's firefighting mission
and practices, the complaint will be filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in
Missoula - because, Stahl said, "Missoula is the nerve center of a huge fire
industrial complex."
"The Forest Service has never, not once in its history, weighed the pros and
cons of firefighting," said Marc Fink, the Western Environmental Law Center
attorney representing FSEE in the lawsuit.
And yet, firefighters die every year, "trying to fight an act of nature,"
Stahl said.
Twenty-six people have died in firefighting-related incidents so far this
year; more than 900 wildland firefighters have died since 1910, the year the
federal government declared war on wildfire.
Stahl said FSEE's board of directors decided to expand its mission to
include "ending the war on fire" about two years ago, shortly after four
central Washington firefighters died in the Thirtymile fire.
An investigation eventually concluded that fire bosses broke all 10 of the
agency's standard safety rules, and their mistakes left firefighters cut off
from the only escape route out of a dead-end canyon.
All four of the firefighters died in their emergency fire shelters.
"We can't think of a more appropriate organization to come to the defense of
wildland firefighters or to hold our agency accountable for the unwarranted
risk it places on its employees," Stahl said. "Who better to question this
unjustified loss of life and squandering of almost a billion dollars a
year?"
Fighting wildfires is analogous to "putting fans on the coast of Florida to
blow the hurricanes away," Stahl said, "or trying to prevent earthquakes.
"Fighting wildfires doesn't work either. It just creates bigger fires later
and a forest health problem."
In the complaint to be filed with U.S. District Judge Don Molloy, FSEE
attorneys recount the history of wildland firefighting and the changes
brought to Western forests by fire suppression.
"As a result of the all-out effort to suppress fires, the annual acreage
consumed by wildfires in the lower 48 states dropped from 40 million to 50
million acres a year in the early 1930s to about 5 million acres in the
1970s," says the complaint.
"Decades of aggressive firefighting and fire suppression have drastically
changed the structure, characteristics and fire behavior of Western
forests," it continues. "Decades of aggressive firefighting on national
forests has resulted in thousands of injuries and hundreds of deaths for
employees of the Forest Service and other federal agencies."
At $1 billion a year, fighting fires is now one of the agency's most
expensive undertakings.
As its entree into a full-blown examination of firefighting practices and
impacts, the suit questions the use of chemical fire retardants in wildland
firefighting.
The Forest Service uses an average of 15 million gallons of fire retardant
each year, with up to 40 million gallons dropped in some years.
And while the chemicals are known to have adverse effects on water quality
and fish, the Forest Service has never prepared an environmental impact
statement on the use of chemical fire retardants, the lawsuit says. Nor has
the agency formally considered alternatives to that use.
The complaint lists several instances where fire retardants were blamed for
fish kills, including the Bircher fire in southwestern Colorado in July
2000.
The fertilizer in fire retardant can cause nitrate poisoning in animals, the
suit continues, and may cause impacts to human health.
By insisting that an EIS be prepared evaluating the pros and cons of
chemical fire retardants, the lawsuit would force the Forest Service to
rethink its entire firefighting program, Stahl said.
"It is time to evaluate which fires should be fought and which should not be
fought," he said. "It's time to focus on making communities and homes more
fire resistant. We know how to do that. We know how that works.
"And we should simply stop fighting particular classes of fires - for
instance, those that burn in the early spring or late fall, when conditions
are conducive to low-intensity fire."
Some wildfires should be suppressed, Stahl said. "But many fewer and with
much more sensitivity to the pros and cons of doing so."
Under the National Environmental Policy Act, federal agencies must write anEIS for "any proposed federal action that may significantly affect the
quality of the human environment."
And every EIS must include not only an analysis of the proposed action, but
of alternatives to that action and any "irreversible and irretrievable
commitment of resources which would be involved if implemented."
Certainly, Stahl said, wildland firefighting is a major federal action.
Certainly, he said, it significantly affects the environment.
"NEPA is the mechanism by which the Forest Service can engage with the
public in deciding how and where and when to fight fires," he said. "That's
what NEPA is supposed to do - to help federal agencies make better-informed
decisions, to insist on a balancing of the pros and cons."
FSEE's membership is wholeheartedly behind the lawsuit's call for scrutiny,
according to Stahl. Everyone involved, though, knows they are seeking "a
complete paradigm shift in the Forest Service."
"But it is possible," he said. "Everyone knows the system is broken and that
bureaucratic inertia favors the status quo."
"The first step is to shine a light and take the hard look that NEPA
requires," Stahl said. "Let's expose the benefits and the costs of
firefighting, including the human lives lost."
Firefighting policy defended
By SHERRY DEVLIN of the Missoulian
Interior assistant questions call for EIS
Fire is a necessary part of nature and "a good tool," an assistant secretary
of the Interior said Monday.
But the federal government is not going to stop fighting forest fires, said
Rebecca Watson, a Helena lawyer and Bush administration appointee.
Watson's comments came in response to a complaint to be filed Tuesday by
Forest Service Employees for Environmental Ethics challenging wildland
firefighting on social and environmental grounds.
"I think people in Montana might take issue with a lawsuit that says you
should not suppress fires," she said. "There are many Montanans living in
the wildland-urban interface who have an expectation that their federal
government, state government, county government will protect them from
wildfires."
Watson and top federal land managers, tribal leaders and state foresters
will meet in Arizona this week to review the 2003 fire season and discuss
firefighting costs, implementation of the National Fire Plan and PresidentBush's Healthy Forests Initiative.
"The whole point of the Healthy Forests Initiative and the National Fire
Plan is to get out of the fire suppression business by restoring the health
of the land and reducing the prevalence of catastrophic wildfires, so fire
can be used as a tool," said Watson, who oversees land and mineral
management at the Interior Department.
Federal land managers have changed their approach to firefighting in recent
years, she said, and actually do allow more acres to burn.
"There is now an understanding that fire is a part of nature, and that we
need to restore these landscapes so fire can be reintroduced," Watson said.
"We understand that fire is a good tool, but we also understand that there
are limitations."
On Tuesday, FSEEE will file suit in U.S. District Court in Missoula, hoping
to force the Forest Service to write an environmental impact statement
weighing the pros and cons of wildland firefighting - beginning with a look
at the use of chemical fire retardants.
Firefighters die every year "trying to fight an act of nature," without any
consideration being given to ending the federal government's "war on fire,"
said Andy Stahl, executive director of FSEEE, whose 12,000 members are
former and current Forest Service employees and agency watchdogs.
It is time, he said, for someone to hold the federal government accountable
"for the unwarranted risk it places on its employees."
On Monday, the complaint received the endorsement of the Western Fire
Ecology Center, which has also questioned the government's firefighting
policies in recent years.
"Firefighting is extremely hazardous duty that takes the lives of young
people," said Timothy Ingalsbee, the group's director. "It also damages the
environment; in some cases, the impacts of firefighting are more significant
than the effects of the fire itself."
"Neither the direct nor the indirect impacts of firefighting have ever been
analyzed," he said. "There is no accountability."
In Washington, D.C., Watson said all are in agreement that "the No. 1 goal
in fighting fires is to keep our firefighters safe."
"There is a constant message that a piece of property is not worth a humanlife," she said. "The culture of wildland firefighting is changing. Our goal
now is a different goal than it was 20 years ago. The goal now is forest
restoration."
At this week's meeting in Arizona, members of the Wildland Fire Leadership
Council will talk about ways to contain the cost of fighting the largest
wildfires, Watson said.
"We'll look at the recurring themes," she said. "What are the criticisms we
have received on costs? What are the problems? What are the solutions? What
are our next steps?"
The Bush administration is not waiting for Congress to enact healthy forests
legislation to begin work on the wildfire issue or thinning in the national
forests, Watson added.
Every year, she said, land managers are approving more fuel-reduction
projects and prescribed burns.
But FSEEE is wrong if its members are suggesting a radical reduction in the
number of fires that are actively suppressed, Watson said.
"Is fire appropriate everywhere? No," she said. "You do not want fire around
communities and important infrastructure. And you also have to address the
air-pollution impacts of fires. There are times when you don't want a fire."
Watson said she believes both fire and land managers have looked at the pros
and cons of firefighting over the years.
FSEEE's request for an environmental impact statement on firefighting is
simply unnecessary, she said.
"If we did an EIS, what would we be doing in the meantime?" Watson asked.
"Let these fires burn while we analyze whether suppression is acceptable? I
think that is questionable.
"I'm certainly not convinced that we need to have an EIS on whether we
suppress fires or not. I think the public tells us pretty clearly that they
want these fires put out."
I know that this is a distant issue to a lot of our Eastern folks, but it has the potential to turn a very sizeable part of the fire service right on its head. It will most likely have a very hard felt national impact.
There are many factors and ways to look at the issue. I know personaly that the way the Federal Gov fihts wildfire is not that efficient. They throw a LOT of money at it, but the problem just keeps on getting worse.
In 2002, wildfires burned 6.9 million acres at a cost of $1.6 billion dollars. That is more then 2 years of Fire Act Grant money!!!
I have worked wildfire with USFS, BLM, and Montana DNRC. They do a lot of good work. But, things are getting so warped out of hand that IMO something does need to change.
I look at my MT Vol department (30 guys covering 740 square miles) and how much wildfire we put out on a inmeasureable fraction of a Federal fire budget for just ONE 5 Man BLM egine crew and I just cant bring myself to stand up and defend the federal wildfire system.
That 1.6 billion would have gone SO much further in the hands of vol departments and more focused efforts.
Anyway, just thought I would bring it to you attention, I will keep posting any more articles I get.
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