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  • Truckman belt vs Escape belt

    I'm looking into buying either a truckman belt or an escape belt but cannot decide. Background: I'm from a mainly suburban area that is most of all 1-2 story houses, a mall, 5 hotels, restaurants, but we run M\A to a lot of rural areas. We do run a ladder truck for for all structure fires in district and out. So to get to my question: What do you use or prefer and what type of an escape belt (yates, gut(not made anymore))(if you use one).



    Thanks,


    .zimm

  • #2
    Iwould personally opt for the escape belt. It will cost a little more but will be a lot more versatile( you can add a tower strap for truck ops, etc.). I have A Gut Belt (supposedly they are coming back onto the market shortly) and love it. Bad thing about the truckman's belt is no life safety rating and not a lot of weight difference.

    Be Safe,
    Capt. Todd J.Matthews
    South Lynches Fire Dept.
    Capt. Todd J. Matthews
    South Lynches Fire Dept.

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    • #3
      Be sure to research your departments rules regarding life safety equipment. A few years ago my department was going to buy the Gut Belt for each member. Then they found out that it was not 3rd party certified (UL listed or an equivelant). The village had a policy that stated all life safety equipment must be.
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      • #4
        Click here and check out the first belt shown. In my opinion, this is the best, and it is designed for the fire service.

        Stay Safe

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        • #5
          If I had to buy my own....

          I'd probably get a pac-mule belt

          http://www.pacmule.com/

          looks like you can get a fairly good safety/tool belt from these guys
          Last edited by tripperff; 09-25-2003, 06:17 PM.
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          • #6
            Belts

            Well it depends on what you really want it for. For a Truck belt I always just wore a top grain Boston Leather Truck Belt. It worked great. I always liked the simplicity of the ring and clip.

            But if you want a harness for escape all you need to know is the link to Gemtor which PAvolunteer provided. When I work in the Truck Co. I put one on every time.

            But according to your description of your city you might just want to go with a normal Truck Belt and learn the many methods of removing yourself from a bad situation with just a rope and halligan.

            FTM-PTB

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            • #7
              Look hard at the Colorado trucker by Fire Innovations.

              Go to Rapid Intervention and ask Jim Crawford, I believe he was field testing it.

              Fire Innovations

              And for the record, I am not a salesperson of any kind. I saw this belt at the expo in San Diego and it was interesting.

              There are a couple of guys on my job using a adjustable pick off strap held around their waist with a biner. They attach a short prusik to it with another biner on the end for use a ladder belt. I don't have the exact numbers..but everything is rated for this type of use.

              Dave
              Last edited by hfd66truck; 09-25-2003, 09:27 PM.

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              • #8
                Yates For Me......

                My current belt is from Yates. I have had several others, but the Yates is the best by far. And, it is 3rd party certified. Stay Safe....
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                • #9
                  I actually talked with the guy that designed the Colorado Trucker Belt. Man, that thing is a CADILLAC!!! Only downside is the price. Supposedly they're coming out ewith one made of nylon that should be half the price.
                  Capt. Todd J. Matthews
                  South Lynches Fire Dept.

                  "Loud Pipes Save Lives!!!"

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                  • #10
                    What are you going to use it for?
                    We have to wear our truck belts (the gut belt switching to Yates) and most guys don't use it for anything. Everyone has 20' of webbing for removal or a hose strap and I think that is fine. I can also use the webbing to make a hasty harness if needed.
                    One belt I did like and use from time to time was my Milwaukee spanner belt. It has a spanner end and is long enough to use as a rope hose tool http://www.rbfab.com/Item/SB-1.htm

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                    • #11
                      boston leather belt safety

                      Originally posted by FFFRED View Post
                      Well it depends on what you really want it for. For a Truck belt I always just wore a top grain Boston Leather Truck Belt. It worked great. I always liked the simplicity of the ring and clip.

                      But if you want a harness for escape all you need to know is the link to Gemtor which PAvolunteer provided. When I work in the Truck Co. I put one on every time.

                      But according to your description of your city you might just want to go with a normal Truck Belt and learn the many methods of removing yourself from a bad situation with just a rope and halligan.

                      FTM-PTB
                      OK heres the thing. Ive been wearing a boston leather belt for about a month now, I wanted a belt to hold some equipment, and for the fact they look great. Now what I want to know from your personal expirence is the boston leather truckmans belt a safe belt to tie yourself off to a ladder or a aerial platform. Because ive read that some companys are using these belts for that purpose. I was playing with the idea of getting a gut belt but I didnt know if I should spend the extra money. And the reason im asking is because I want to use it for tying into our 65' snorkel.

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                      • #12
                        I used to wear a Boston Leather Truckie Belt. It was nice to wear to carry an axe to the roof, then I started hanging my flashlight from it. In the end, I didn't find it as functional as I had wanted. It had some functionality, but overall it really didn't improve things for me. I am planning to buy one of the Fire Innovations Colorado belts ($$$ has kept me from doing it sooner). I think the Colorado belt is less bulky than a lot of the other escape belts out there. I plan on putting belt loops on my running pants and using it as an escape belt/ladder belt. I was thinking about the Gemtor harness, but in my opinion, it adds extra weight and bulk compared to the Colorado Belt. Like someone mentioned above, if Fire Innovations comes out with a nylon version, it would not only be cheaper, but lighter. Bottom line, if you are going to get a belt, you might as well get one than can be used as an escape belt too.

                        Some people balk at the whole "escape belt" thing, and think it is a waste of money if the dept doesn't provide it. I am a firm believer in the better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it philosophy. Also in my weird way of thinking, if i spend money on self rescue stuff, I will probably never have to use it. If I try to save the money, I will be hanging out a window kicking myself for being a cheap bastard.

                        Stay Safe
                        Chris Polimeni
                        Prince George's County FD
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                        • #13
                          Germanator Belt Truck Belt

                          I have seen these belts worn by the Windy City Brothers, but have not seen any place they can be purchased.... Is Germanator not producing these belts???? I know they make other types of harness etc, but would like to here others opinions on this belt. Thanks much!!!
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                          • #14
                            This is what I have. A little pricy, but well worth it


                            I am fixin to get rid of it, since the new bunkergear has the intergrated harness.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BLSboy View Post
                              This is what I have. A little pricy, but well worth it


                              I am fixin to get rid of it, since the new bunkergear has the intergrated harness.

                              We have two of these in service, and they are great if you want more than a basic pant/escape belt. NFPA Class II, and Life Safety Rated. Add any one of these for a belt that will hold a lot of gear.

                              http://www.yatesgear.com/rescue/fire...pads/index.htm




                              But for the aerial, we have the FFRED Escape system on all our Dragar SCBA, and I have just ordered a couple of the ladder hooks for them as well to eliminate the need for a second belt. If the guys are not going to use SCBA, they can grab one of the Yates harnesses, or we have a few standard 8" ladder belts with 3 foot lanyards.
                              Last edited by mcaldwell; 07-25-2007, 03:56 PM.
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