RIT Training Info

[WTFD10]

I'm looking for two things for upcoming RIT training:

Videos of the Denver Drill (removing a FF through a window from a small room) and Columbus/Nance Drill (Rescuing a FF who has fallen through a floor) I'm looking to purchase videos that show step-by-step instruction in these techniques.

I'm also looking for info on the Phoenix supermarket fire. I believe I read something on these forums a few years ago about their study on how many FF are actually needed to rescue a downed FF. I read through their report on their website but it doesn't seem to have this info.

Any help would be appreciated

[FireCapt1951retired]

You can try this site from Michigan State University. I'm not sure if they're offering videos yet but you can contact them to find out. They use the Denver drill in their RIT program.

http://www.ffsurvival.com/

[quint1driver]

Brother, check out this link:

http://www.thewatchdesk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2496&highlight=Rapid+and

I got that through 1951's link, so thanks to him. The post that link takes you to details the phoenix rit evaluation. From what I read, they also link to the actual report.

[ves9102]

rit training

Check out rapid intervention.com This site has lots of info. and resources. You can also go to the Phoenix F.D.'s site and print the 100 page report involving the Southwest super market fire, that claimed ff Tarver's life. Good luck with your search...

[First In]

Try TES2training.com. I think there are several handouts that describe the drills in detail.

[dsblev]

You can receive a lot of information about the Southwest Supermarket Fire by visiting the firefighter investigation page on NIOSH. Also visit the www.ci.phoenix.az.us/fire and the entire report 110 page report is available. As far as the study that was done, Arizona State University did the study with several thousand firefighters in hundreds of evalutions and they found that there was a need for approx 15 personnel per downed firefighter to have a chance for a successful rescue. The department went so far as to say that they believe that after this study their department runs the chance of 50/50 of making a successful rescue. If you proceed to review the NIOSH report of the death at the Southwest Supermarket Fire you will find that there were several time that the firefighter was found and was disoriented to the point that Mr. Tarver was said to fight them off. Multiple RIT teams were established and activated in this event to no sucess. A local department has established a state training program that is now being taught as a state sponsered program for Rapid intervention Team Operations. A three day labor intensive program that shows you the need to do advanced programs to practice for the unexpected. The Denver Drill has been profiled in Firehouse magazine and by finding this article you can set up the entire drill. The Pittsburg drill is another good drill to run and you can get this information from Jim Crawford at the Pittsburg Fire Department. You can get in touch with Mr. Crawford through his webpage designed to the advancement of RIT teams at www.rapidintervention.com.

Any additional information you can contact myself and I can go over the information in the RIT Team Operations Class.

David

[WTFD10]

Thanks for the help Brothers.

Lt. 1951: I'll give MSU a call, thanks.

Quint1driver: That is exactly what I was looking for. I forgot it was on TWD and not here

First In: Thanks for the link to Tim Sendelbach's site. His "Safety Engine" concept is a truly great idea.

To dsblev and everyone who suggested www.rapidintervention.com , I agree that this is an excellent site. Most of the info for my upcoming training was derived from there. From Firefighters everywhere: Thanks Jim!

[MidwayChief2]

No thanks necessary...

You're welcome brothers. We all need to help keep each other alive in whatever way we can. I only hope that rapidintevention.com is doing that. If I can help any of you with something just let me know. Stay safe...

[firenresq77]

The safety engine concept appears to be the same thing is a F.A.S.T. Team.

Moe, that is what we are working on now, the FAST Team. We have been going through the training for the last couple of months for everyone, which most of which concentrates on Self Rescue. Then there is going to be more training for those who would like to be members of the FAST team. We already have SOGs made up for it. The guy who worked on our program sent all of his info and sample SOGs and training oultines and such to Jim Crawford for suggestons and opinions before we even started it...........

[MidwayChief2]

firenresq77,
You guys did a nice job with it too... Keep up the good work.

[firenresq77]

We're trying, Jim. It's a little slower than we would like, but we'd rather have it slower and done right than to get it doen too quick and not be done properly. We all thank you for your help....... You've been a big help to many departments!