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  • #61
    Specialist Hulme,
    Greetings from another Marine. I'm the ARFF Chief for Marine Wing Support Squadron 471, USMCR. A few of our Marines probably went to Goodfellow with you-Jablonicky, Kapala, Dick, Renneke, Risch, any of those sound familiar? We just got back from 6 months in NC, a breeze compared to the place you're in. Our unit has worked with a couple of MIARNG fire units, the 1439th and 1440th out of Grayling, MI. I have had nothing but positive experiences working with firefighters of the other services-except for dealing with 1500Ls and P-23s-I'll keep my P-19As. The firefighter in us always supersedes the inter-service rivalries.

    Stay safe, you and your fellow soldiers watch your six. We'll be thinking of you.

    Semper fi

    GySgt John Vanatta

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    • #62
      Question....

      I've figured out that the expression 'Saving your six' or 'watching your six' must mean watching your back (or ***), and I think that it is also military terminology, right? So what is the background story behind this expression?

      cheers

      Pat
      Communications Diva of the IACOJ, and proud member of the WOT!


      Bagpipes: They put the fun back in funerals!!sigpic

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      • #63
        Thanks to everybody who has replied to this, I find it hard to even keep up, it's great though!

        radio guy - Our unit doesn't have any warrant officers, but there may be some unit out there that does. I don't know. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance.
        zippo99 - Not sure when we'll be relieved, hopefully by January.
        Badge174 - Thanks for the link to those pieces of crap hemmit fire trucks. We're probably getting them when we get back to the states. I'm sure pierce does a great job on them and all, but the turning radius sucks and there's practically no compartment space.
        gunnyv - HOORAH GUNNY!! I trained with a bunch of Marines down at Goodfellow, though I don't remember any of the names you mentioned. I pretty much knew only the guys from my class. Glad to hear that you have had positive experiences working with other services. We have those 2500L's, no P23's though. I've heard stories of P23's losing wheels on the flightline? Not sure where that came from though. The air force that is with us has all P-19s, and 3 "borrowed" Iraqi crash vehicles.
        CommDiva - You are correct, "watching your six" comes from the use of the clock as a way to show somebody where something is. Like, for example, if something was directly to your right, you'd say it's at your "3 o'clock" so if something was directly to your back, it would be at "your 6 o'clock" hence, "watching your six" means watching your back.
        "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

        Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.

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        • #64
          Hey Armyfire

          I'm a little further up north. We've been hearing BIAP is closing and going 100% civilian again. Is this truth or B/S?

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          • #65
            Hello from the Lone Star State. We are very proud of our American military in Iraq and serving around the world. Some of the firefighting operations we see in the media going on in Baghdad seems to be just plain clothed civilians manning hoselines. Does Baghdad have a civilian fire department? Civilian firefighting efforts do not appear to be organized. Is the US Military helping with civilian firefighting and EMS operations?

            I am the son of a disabled Korean War Veteran. My dad is very proud of his own service and very proud of the American military presence in Iraq. Keep safe and come back to a country that is proud of those who serve.
            joejoe33

            Comments and opinions are mine and do not represent the agency or IAFF local that I am affiliated with.

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            • #66
              Any info on general state of fire services in Afganistan (Kabul etc)? Not necessarily military/airfield but more interested structural support for civilian areas (even what protection if any may actually be provided by various military units/nations. I assume after years of Taliban/anarchy, preceeded by the Ruskies there is not much in the way of civlian apparatus/organized companies.

              Interest is that I have been approached by an organization that would like to create a philanthropic project to "help" advance things in Afganistan. Lots of un, gov't, NGO projects in Afganistan, any fire service related? I think the US military is about the only organization that is actually accomplishing anything there so I'm interested in background of what is going on.
              Last edited by neiowa; 09-02-2003, 11:18 AM.

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              • #67
                Iraq firefighting

                Matt, I read your forum. I have heard rumors that we (U.S.) are trying to put together an Iraq Fire/Rescue service. Do you know anything about this. I understand if you can't divulge to much.

                Keith
                Largo, FL.

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                • #68
                  chopper81 - I cannot answer your question, sorry.
                  joejoe - Thanks for your nice comments. Most of the city of Baghdad is protected by civilian firefighters with little training, and barely any equipment besides trucks. We respond to some incidents, it has to be large enough to warrant sending Army assets into harms way though.
                  neiowa - Sorry bro, I wouldn't know anything about Afghanistan, I have never been there.
                  Cleano - I can tell you that we (Baghdad Intl Airport Fire/Rescue) are currently training the 3rd group of Iraqi firefighters that will be working on the airport. I cannot speak for anybody outside the BIAP though, they may or may not be training Iraqis.
                  "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

                  Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Question....

                    Originally posted by CommDiva
                    I've figured out that the expression 'Saving your six' or 'watching your six' must mean watching your back (or ***), and I think that it is also military terminology, right? So what is the background story behind this expression?

                    cheers

                    Pat
                    "Watch your six" is watch your back. 6 being 6 o'clock, which is basically behind you. I'm thinking that 12 o'clock is ahead of you, 3 o'clock is your right, 6 o'clock rear, and 9 o'clock is your left. Anybody else? Again this is just a theory I have......
                    It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.

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                    • #70
                      hey Army,
                      Just checking how you were doing down there.
                      So, what's new ?
                      Stay safe
                      *The BOSS rules*

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                      • #71
                        Well, to give an update, our unit has been extended. We won't be leaving until at least April of next year. Not good news, especially for the guys that have wives and kids back home. We do get two weeks of leave, if we so choose. I will be taking mine around January. Can't wait to get home and see what's changed in almost a year. Other than that, nothing has been going on. Been fairly quiet over here. We still have the trash dump that catches fire every other day or so, but that's about it. Just wanted to check in and say hi, and that I'm still alive! LOL. Talk to you guys soon.

                        Stay safe,

                        Matt
                        "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

                        Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.

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                        • #72
                          army I heard a rumor that some contract firefighters were soon gonna be assigned to the airport, any truth to this, and if so will they be taking over your guys's duties or doing something totally different?
                          After I'm dead I'd rather have people ask why I have no monument than why I have one

                          Official Minister of Philosophy of the IACOJ

                          IACOJ Probie Crusty of the year 2003

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                          • #73
                            Yes, contract firefighters from Brown&Root and Skylink will be taking over the airport. We have no idea of a timeframe at all. From what I've heard, they are still negotiating the contract.

                            They should be taking over the civilian side of the airport, when it gets divided. Military FF's will still be responsible for all the military assets on post, and the military runway, but the civilian guys will have the humanitarian runway, and anything that isn't military.
                            Last edited by Armyfirerescue; 10-16-2003, 06:17 PM.
                            "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

                            Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.

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                            • #74
                              Army, my son just returned from the airport. Attached to the 5th SFG. I hope you are doing well, keeping cool and well hydrated. Is there anything you guys could use at your station or barracks? We still have boxes of paperbacks and powdered drinks ready to send.

                              Jim
                              Remember, it IS as bad as you think and they ARE out to get you!

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                              • #75
                                Hey Matt, how are you doing? Hope you're keeping safe. I also hope that your tour is almost up.

                                Drop us a line and let us know how conditions are for you. My son returned a few weeks ago and we are hoping that all the troops rotate out real soon.
                                Remember, it IS as bad as you think and they ARE out to get you!

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