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  • #31
    Thanks for filling us in on your activities in Iraq. Its pretty interesting stuff.


    • #32
      captstanm1 - Our level of staffing is about 40 FF's. Mixed Army and Air Force. I can't give you an exact number. The army works with the following rank structure. We have a 1st LT who acts as our fire marshal, we have a SFC who is our fire chief. We have a SSG who is our deputy chief, and we have two shift captains, who are SGT's. The Air Force works on a different system, and we don't fall under them. We have two shifts that work 24 on 24 off and work out of a main station with one sub-station. We use 1 1/2" attack lines with some TFT nozzles, but most of our nozzles are off-brand and don't even have a pistol grip. They suck. Any other questions, don't hesitate to ask.

      Dickey - We work independant of the Iraqis, but overall they would fall under us, they lack the experience to work independantly as of yet.

      Stay safe brothers,

      "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

      Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.


      • #33
        Thanks Matt...I wondered if you worked the same shift as I did when I was a GS8 on a military base Fire Department.

        What are you using for PPE, SCBA and helmets?
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        • #34
          Army my dad was in the USMC as a MP. and wish all your fellow firefghters good luck and god's speed form Cave City Fire department . do you all carry JAWS and outher auto rescue tools. I know them HUMVEE have to be a pain in the but to cut up. Take it easy


          • #35
            Related News-Kuwait

            I thought Matt would be interested in this related news. Apparently, no casualties reported yet. Be safe brother!

            KUWAIT, July 31 (Reuters) - A fire swept through a U.S.
            military camp at Kuwait airport on Thursday, but the only
            casualties were soldiers suffering from smoke inhalation, the
            official Kuwaiti news agency KUNA reported.
            It was not clear what sparked the fire. There was no word on
            whether it could have been sabotage, though Kuwait has seen
            several attacks on the thousands of U.S. troops based in the
            oil-rich Gulf state for the war on neighbouring Iraq.
            KUNA said firefighters from five different brigades rushed
            to the scene and put out the blaze that swept through 21 tents
            housing offices which oversee the arrival and departure of U.S.
            troops at the airport.
            "The injuries were limited to light cases of smoke
            inhalation among American soldiers," the agency said, adding
            that strong winds caused the flames to spread rapidly.
            The blaze did not disrupt traffic at the airport, which is
            used for both civilian and military flights, it said.
            Kuwait was the launchpad for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq
            in March. There were several attacks on Americans in the buildup
            to the war. A U.S. Marine was killed in October and an American
            civilian working for the military was gunned down in January.

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            • #36
              NJFFSA16 - Thanks for the article. My unit stayed at that camp for about a week when we first flew in. We actually met the Kuwaiti firefighters for the airport. They are really good guys, there were a couple that spoke fairly good english. They envited us to come over and eat lunch with them, they were serving us tea all day long and watching MTV. They had a satelite hookup at the firehouse. They also watched "Everybody loves Raymond" in english, but with arabic subtitles. They would always get the punchline after us because they had to read it, so it would be us laughing, then them, it was a fun experience. Anyway, yeah, when those tempertents go up, they go up like a roman candle, and FAST! It doesn't take much to set them on fire, and they burn completely within like, 2 minutes. Fueled by the winds that we have all the time in the middle east, I'm surprised it only involved 21 tents. Well, thanks again for the article.

              Stay safe,

              "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

              Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.


              • #37
                Bed-Stuy to Baghdad,fire lieutenant digs in

                By LAURA J. WINTER in Baghdad
                and CELESTE KATZ in New York
                DAILY NEWS WRITERS

                When a fire alarm comes in - by word of mouth, since there are no radios or phones - the firefighters of al Thaora rush to duty in cotton shirts, polyester pants and plastic slip-on sandals.
                The only furniture in their Baghdad fire station, staffed by a rotating roster of 25 men, is a desk and a few chairs. A local man often brings his 50 goats to graze nearby, and the animals leave droppings in the bunk room as they search for food.
                A New York City fire lieutenant at home, Army Capt. Joseph Duggan, 36, of Breezy Point, Queens, has been in Baghdad since May 3, picking out paint colors, installing lights and windows, and fighting to get the firefighters what they desperately need: radios, phones and protective gear.
                Right now, "They have to wait for someone to run up to them and tell them there is a fire," Duggan said. "These guys are not going to get there in time to save their house, maybe their neighbors' houses."
                And when they head to a blaze, he said, "They have no boots, no helmets, no jackets. One of the captains has scarred hands because they don't have any gloves. ... As far as I'm concerned, they can't do the job."
                Duggan, a 12-year FDNY veteran, formerly worked with Ladder 176 in Brooklyn. He was promoted to lieutenant and was transferred before being activated and deployed to the Middle East.
                "I worked in Ladder 6 Battalion, Bedford-Stuyvesant," Duggan said. "That's congested, a poor neighborhood. Al Thaora is the ghetto of Baghdad."
                The fire station was stripped down, Duggan said, because it was a symbol of dictator Saddam Hussein's regime: "Everything was taken. And what they couldn't take, they broke. They would go out on a run and then they would be robbed."

                So few resources

                Added Army Maj. Joseph Sasso, 39: "We got the truck back from some people who drove it to the supermarket. They'd tried telling us that their brother was a firefighter [and] had lent it to them. Yeah, right."

                They needed that truck badly.

                "It's not like New York City, where you have a plethora of fire stations - 1.5 million people live here and they have one fire engine," said Sasso, who is from Canarsie, Brooklyn. "Imagine having one fire engine for the entire South Bronx."
                The head of al Thaora station, Maj. Adnan Hussein, said Duggan is doing all he can to get the firefighters what they need.
                "We know he cannot give us everything we need. I don't have to tell him what is needed," Adnan Hussein said. "He tries. He is a good man."
                He's also going to be a dad: Duggan is returning home for two weeks at the end of this month to be with his wife, Mary Ellen Duggan, when she gives birth to their first child.

                Originally published on August 3, 2003
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                • #38
                  Hope this is OK to post here

                  U.S. Has Process in Place for Iraqis to Make Damage Claims

                  By Jim Garamone
                  American Forces Press Service

                  WASHINGTON, Aug. 4, 2003 - The United States will pay Iraqi claims for damages that are caused by the negligent or wrongful acts of U.S. soldiers, coalition officials said in Baghdad Aug. 3.

                  As of July 31, American officials have already adjudicated 1,496 claims and paid 1,168 in the amount of $262,945. Some 2,517 claims have been made against the United States.

                  The claims are made under the Foreign Claims Act, which provides that the military may pay claims for the wrongful or negligent acts of its forces to inhabitants of foreign countries who file claims. Military commissions adjudicate these claims. In Iraq, there are 31 Foreign Claims Commissions. At brigade level, a military lawyer or judge can award damages up to $2,500. At division level, a lawyer or judge can award up to $15,000 in damages. At the Combined Joint Task Force 7 level, a three-person panel can award up to$50,000.

                  Claims that exceed $50,000 are sent to U.S. Army Claims Service for
                  adjudication, officials said.

                  Every claim made is looked at individually, officials said. The panels examine whether the Foreign Claims Act applies to the claim and ask "is it (the claim) for the negligent or wrongful act of a member of the force; is it in an amount certain, and most importantly, is it for something other than the combat activity of United States forces," said a task force official in Baghdad.

                  "And this is a very key point," the official continued. "It's what is known as the combat exclusion, because under the Foreign Claims Act, consistent with the law of war and consistent with the practice of other nations, payments are not authorized for damage, for injury, for death that is the result of combat activities of U.S. forces."

                  While President Bush declared major combat operations over on May 1, low-intensity combat operations continue. Damage caused by these operations may not be remunerated.

                  Officials said the claims paid so far are for property loss or damage. They said there are probably "wrongful death" claims in the system that have not been adjudicated yet. Officials will use the traditions of Iraq to set the damages paid for wrongful death.

                  The burden of proof is on the claimant to prove he suffered a loss and what the value is. "Ways of doing that would be statements from other individuals -- if they have receipts, photographs," officials said. "If it's serious enough, there may be a military investigation done on it."

                  If the claimant is not satisfied with the decision, there is an appeals process, officials said.
                  A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.


                  • #39

                    Hey...I just wanted to tell you how much you'll mean to me...The service men over there are not only fighting for their lives, but for ours too and people they don't even know...You'll are doing such a great job...Good Job....Be Careful.....But anyways i have a best friend overseas right now he was at the baghdad international airport...He said it gets really hot over there..So, i can only imagine how hot it would be with all the fire gear over there....What types of equipment do you'll have over there? and what kinds of engines, and tankers (what size)...Well, i just wanted to send you this little thank you mesage....Be Careful...If you have yahoo messenger you can find me on there misti_girl_2002 on yahoo...well, i hope to talk to you soon.....Be Careful...Take Care...Misti


                    • #40
                      First off, HOOYAH from a brother(fmr) Army man. Just wanted to say stay safe and get back soon.

                      Do you guys have a hydrant system for refilling your trucks??? And are their any fixed fire protection systems for the buildings around the airport?
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                      • #41
                        Hey ARMY,
                        Great job you guys did there. Thanks
                        I'm a firefighter in the Belgian Navy.
                        I wish we were there by your side like we did in '91.
                        But once again our government ashamed us, you have to know, not all Belgians are against you.
                        Stay safe.
                        *The BOSS rules*


                        • #42
                          Misti - To answer your questions, we have 4 Amertek 2500L structural/crash pumpers. We also have two 6000 gallon water tankers (but one is OOS, pump is bad)

                          FF7134 - We don't have any hydrant system whatsoever, they are working on getting one installed, right now we draft from a huge crater from a 2000 pound JDAM bomb that blew up a water main on the airport property. No sprinkler systems or standpipes in any of the buildings except the "hotel california" they have a dry standpipe system.

                          Zippo99 - Thanks for the message, I never thought the Belgians were against us. The French, I'm not so sure about.

                          Stay safe brothers (and sisters)

                          "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

                          Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.


                          • #43
                            I have to admit that my government din't went along with the US and acualy agreed with the French, we had a lot of demonstrations at the US-ambassy here in Brussels.
                            there was even a peaceoraganisation that filed a complaint against Genn. Franks, they wanted him to stand trial for Warcrimes against the Iraqui people.
                            Anyway, let me tell you that in our Firefightingsquad are 5 bikers, and we all putt the Stars and Stripes on our bikes the day you guys started to clean up the mess.
                            I got some good friends in the US-Navy and all around the States, and I'm DAM'N proud of it.

                            Question : are you a trained firefighter or is it a task the army ordered you to do ?

                            Stay safe
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                            • #44
                              zippo99 - Good to hear that you're so supportive of the US, it's great that other countries (especially the ones that aren't helping us) at least have people that support us. In answer to your question, yes, I am a trained firefighter. I went to Goodfellow AFB, TX to the DOD fire school there.

                              Stay safe brothers,

                              "At one point we decided to fight fire with fire, basically your house just burned faster."

                              Recipient of the IACOJ Service Award 2003.


                              • #45
                                Are these near you????

                                American Forces Pull Hidden MiG fighters out of Iraqi Desert

                                By Kathleen T. Rhem
                                American Forces Press Service

                                WASHINGTON, Aug. 6, 2003 -- American forces have found Russian fighter jets buried in the Iraqi desert, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an Aug. 5 press briefing.

                                "We'd heard a great many things had been buried, but we had not known where they were, and we'd been operating in that immediate vicinity for weeks and weeks and weeks ... 12, 13 weeks, and didn't know they were (there)," Rumsfeld said.

                                The secretary said he wasn't sure how many such aircraft had been found, but noted, "It wasn't one or two."

                                He said it's a "classic example" of the challenges the Iraqi Survey Group is facing in finding weapons of mass destruction in the country.

                                "Something as big as an airplane that's within ... a stone's throw of where you're functioning, and you don't know it's there because you don't run around digging into everything on a discovery process," Rumsfeld explained. "So until you find somebody who tells you where to look, or until nature clears some sand away and exposes something over time, we're simply not going to know.

                                "But, as we all know," he added, "the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

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