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  • #46
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    • #47
      NUMBERS of WTC as of 7/1/03

      People identified 1505 out of 2792

      Only 292 whole bodies were recovered

      Nearly 13,000 body parts await DNA testing

      135 FDNY firefighters (many friends)and 1152 other poor soles still missing.
      OVER 45% were NEVER RECOVERED.

      9-11-01 EVERYDAY for FDNY and The City of New York



      MEMORIAL

      New York City Office of Chief Medical Examiner Identification Report
      WORLD TRADE CENTER DISASTER March, 2003


      Loved Ones Reported Missing 2,792
      Identified 1,480 53%
      Not Identified 1,312 47%

      Remains Recovered at WTC Site 19,934
      Remains Identified 6,483 33%
      Remains Not Identified 13,451 67%



      WTC Memorial
      "AMERICA REMEMBERS"


      United States Foreign Citizenship
      Alabama 4 Australian 1
      Arizona 1 Belgian 1
      California 49 Brazilian 3
      Colorado 2 British 67
      Connecticut 65 Chinese 2
      D.C. 11 Colombian 17
      Delaware 2 Congonese 2
      Florida 5 Ecuadorian 3
      Georgia 4 Filipino 15
      Hawaii 2 French 1
      Idaho 1 German 5
      Illinois 9 Ghanaian 2
      Iowa 1 Guyanese 3
      Kansas 2 Haitian 2
      Kentucky 1 Honduran 1
      Louisiana 3 Indian 1
      Maine 4 Indonesian 1
      Massachusetts 92 Irish 1
      Maryland 50 Israeli 2
      Michigan 2 Italian 4
      Mississippi 1 Ivory Coast 1
      Missouri 2 Jamaican 16
      North Carolina 3 Japanese 23
      New Hampshire 10 Lebanese 3
      New Jersey 694 Lithuanian 1
      New York 1,747 Mexican 15
      Nebraska 1 Moldavian 1
      New Mexico 1 Nigerian 1
      Nevada 1 Peruvian 5
      Ohio 3 Portuguese 3
      Oklahoma 2 Russian 1
      Oregon 1 Swedish 1
      Pennsylvania 30 Taiwanese 1
      Rhode Island 5 Ukraninian 1
      Tennessee 1 Uzbek 1
      Texas 6 Venezuelan 1
      Utah 1
      Virginia 81
      Virgin Islands 1
      Wisconsin 1
      Last edited by E40FDNYL35; 07-17-2003, 07:08 AM.
      ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
      NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
      343
      CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
      LT. John Ginley Engine 40
      FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
      FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
      FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
      FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
      FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
      FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
      FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
      FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
      FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40

      Charleston 9
      "If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
      *******************CLICK HERE*****************

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      • #48
        12135 Brother!
        Proudly serving as the IACOJ Minister of Information & Propoganda!
        Be Safe! Lookouts-Awareness-Communications-Escape Routes-Safety Zones

        *Gathering Crust Since 1968*
        On the web at www.section2wildfire.com

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        • #49
          OUCH

          Canada - 24

          http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/Con...=1026144700544

          Thank you for that link Ray.
          September 11th - Never Forget

          I respect firefighters and emergency workers worldwide. Thank you for what you do.

          Sheri
          IACOJ CRUSTY CONVENTION CHAIR
          Honorary Flatlander

          RAY WAS HERE FIRST

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          • #50
            BUMP - Please sign!
            September 11th - Never Forget

            I respect firefighters and emergency workers worldwide. Thank you for what you do.

            Sheri
            IACOJ CRUSTY CONVENTION CHAIR
            Honorary Flatlander

            RAY WAS HERE FIRST

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            • #51
              NEVER FORGET
              ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
              NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
              343
              CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
              LT. John Ginley Engine 40
              FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
              FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
              FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
              FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
              FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
              FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
              FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
              FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
              FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40

              Charleston 9
              "If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
              *******************CLICK HERE*****************

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              • #52
                MR. BLOOMBERG

                ...Let our Brothers rest in peace.
                IAFF-IACOJ PROUD

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                • #53
                  #12281

                  NEVER FORGET!
                  FTM-PTB-DTRT

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                  • #54
                    12283!!!! That is rediculous that we have to petition for something that should have been done in the first place

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                    • #55
                      just plain wrong

                      #12384 i signed

                      all FF in the FDNY give 'em hell

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                      • #56
                        E40- Thank you for the link. I cried all over again.
                        I.A.C.O.J. Charter Member
                        "Chet, get an inch and a half on that!"

                        "Not for fame or reward,Not for place or rank. Not lured by ambition or goaded by necessity. But in simple obedience to duty as they understood it. These men suffered,sacrificed,dared all, and died. Let us never forget our fallen friends."

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                        • #57
                          Remains of 1,000 lost at WTC may never be identified

                          THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
                          The remains of as many as 1,000 people lost in the World Trade Center attack might never be identified, says the top forensic biologist leading the city’s monumental DNA project.
                          The medical examiner’s office has identified slightly more than half of the 2,792 people killed in the attack — only about 100 of those in the last year as technicians struggle with DNA degraded and damaged by fire and the elements.
                          Robert Shaler, chief of forensic biology, had once hoped to reach 2,000 identifications, but he said in an interview with The Associated Press that he no longer considers that a realistic goal.
                          Now, Shaler said he hopes for about 1,700 identifications — 1,800 at the outside — by the time the office exhausts available DNA matching methods within a year. City officials recently notified victims’ families of the outlook.
                          “I think once we’ve done all of the testing on all of the remains using the technology we have, I think we’re finished,” Shaler said.
                          He cautioned that he doesn’t mean the trade center DNA effort will be closed forever, but said scientists would have to develop new DNA processes for it to continue.
                          “If three years from now somebody comes up with something ... that really looks like it’s going to work, then we’re going to be poised to go after it,” he said.
                          Identifications were made quickly in the weeks after the Sept. 11, 2001 attack, many based on bodies recovered mostly intact. For smaller parts, the medical examiner has had to rely on DNA matching, drawing results from shreds of bone and tissue.
                          The medical examiner’s office has been aggressive in finding new avenues for DNA identifications, hiring companies to write software for each technique they try. Right now, Shaler is hoping an adapted version of a DNA process normally used for disease research will soon yield new identifications.
                          It enables technicians to examine unusually short pieces of DNA, which shrinks as it degrades. The DNA in about 61 percent of the remains recovered at the trade center did not yield workable pieces in initial tests because it was broken down by heat, humidity and time.
                          Shaler said the work in the next year will involve a tedious scrutiny of the badly damaged DNA. The samples will undergo every available process, each of which yield only partial results. Those test results are then compared; for a successful match, the idea is that each test fills in some of the gaps, like puzzle pieces fitting together.
                          “We’re marrying different pieces of information together,” Shaler said. “It’s just this slow trickle.”
                          Many of the new DNA matches made this year have yielded additional remains for people already identified. The highest number of body parts matched to one person is more than 200.
                          In most cases, victims whose remains have not been identified have been legally declared dead by the court and their families issued death certificates based on documents or other proof they were at the trade center or on the hijacked airplanes.
                          Shaler has begun looking beyond the lab to information about where people worked in the towers, where and when their coworkers’ remains were found, and who in those groups have been identified. With that data, the medical examiner’s office can cross-reference identified people with unidentified samples, narrowing the search to scrutinize a few DNA profiles instead of hundreds.
                          Shaler came up with one potential match when he was experimenting whether this technique was feasible. He then ordered software to be created that would do it for him.
                          “I’m still driven by the families,” he said. “When I see these people, they look at me with eyes that say, ’Did you find her yet?’ But when you’re only turning out a couple a week or four, five a month, it’s hard.”
                          ALL GAVE SOME BUT SOME GAVE ALL
                          NEVER FORGET 9-11-01
                          343
                          CAPT. Frank Callahan Ladder 35 *
                          LT. John Ginley Engine 40
                          FF. Bruce Gary Engine 40
                          FF. Jimmy Giberson Ladder 35
                          FF. Michael Otten Ladder 35 *
                          FF. Steve Mercado Engine 40 *
                          FF. Kevin Bracken Engine 40 *
                          FF. Vincent Morello Ladder 35
                          FF. Michael Roberts Ladder 35 *
                          FF. Michael Lynch Engine 40
                          FF. Michael Dauria Engine 40

                          Charleston 9
                          "If my job was easy a cop would be doing it."
                          *******************CLICK HERE*****************

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                          • #58
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                            Last edited by captstanm1; 08-13-2003, 09:16 PM.
                            09-11 .. 343 "All Gave Some..Some Gave ALL" God Bless..R.I.P.
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                            IACOJ Minister of Southern Comfort
                            "Purple Hydrant" Recipient (3 Times)
                            BMI Investigator
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                            The comments, opinions, and positions expressed here are mine. They are expressed respectfully, in the spirit of safety and progress. They do not reflect the opinions or positions of my employer or my department.

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                            • #59
                              #12378 and we thought this couldn't get any worse..
                              DOC550

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                              • #60
                                DONE. #12381

                                When I say "Rest in Peace, Brothers" I mean that. This situation is different, I want those who rest in Fresh Kills Landfill disturbed, just long enough to move them to their rightful resting place. That this situation even arose, is making me wonder about Committment to honor those who were murdered on 9/11/01, on the part of the City of New York. Stay Safe....
                                Last edited by hwoods; 08-14-2003, 05:14 PM.
                                Never use Force! Get a Bigger Hammer.
                                In memory of
                                Chief Earle W. Woods, 1912 - 1997
                                Asst. Chief John R. Woods Sr. 1937 - 2006

                                IACOJ Budget Analyst

                                I Refuse to be a Spectator. If I come to the Game, I'm Playing.

                                www.gdvfd18.com

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