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    Hello. Yesterday my department was toned out for silo fire. Responded with one engine, one tanker and one rescue. A line was taken off the engine and put into the silo. They then sent someone in without an SCBA into the silo to rake it around so we could hit hot spots. I assuming the contents was silage.

    So on a silo fire should SCBA required to enter it? In this situation the top was all open and we had access at the bottom. I am unsure of gasses/ and all that. My first instinct was that this is a no-no. That at least SCBA should be required. But I personally would like to see it that there be no entrance into a silo because it would classify as a confined space correct?

    They didn’t touch on any of this in the New York State Safety Officer Course, which I have taken and hold the certification of there-of.

    So what I am asking... how would you do it? What would you require? Any input would be great. I want to make sure that steps are taken to prevent a disaster.
    Last edited by rfcmitch; 06-12-2003, 03:42 PM.
    Firefighter/EMT Mitch Cowen
    Hose Co. 1 1st Lieutenant
    Randolph Fire Co. Inc

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    should an SCBA be worn? YES. Not all gases float away when a roof opening is opened. Not only that but particles can be inhaled and can cause damage.
    NREMT-P\ Reserve Volunteer Firefighter\Reserve Police Officer
    IACOJ Attack

    Experts built the Titanic, amateurs built the Ark.

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    • #3
      Absolutely wear your SCBA. You've got a confined space issues, a possibly explosive atmosphere, the risk of voids in the stuff you're standing on, and many other very nasty possibilities.

      The USFA has a report in their technical report series that discusses the dangers of silo fires. If this link doesn't work, then go to www.usfa.fema.gov and find their technical report series. It is report TR-096.

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      • #4
        I delt with a couple of silo fires back in the day. They are similar to confined space fires/rescues. SCBA should be worn at all times!
        D. Hager
        Paramedic

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        • #5
          This is what I thought but I wanted to make sure that I was correct before I brought anything up. Its always nice to have back-up when talkin to the boys. You guys set in stone what I thought already, thanks a lot. And thanks for the link.
          Firefighter/EMT Mitch Cowen
          Hose Co. 1 1st Lieutenant
          Randolph Fire Co. Inc

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          • #6
            Silo=Run or at least wear SCBA

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            • #7
              Did ya'll see the "Critical Rescue" on the Silo fire...very scarry great job by the companies that responded

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              • #8
                rfcmitch,

                You might want to check out these links:

                http://www.nraes.org/publications/nraes18.html
                http://www.cdc.gov/nasd/docs/d000701...9/d000759.html

                We had an incident in our rural area that saw a barn burn down which ignited three silos. It turned into a major, multi-day, mutal aid screw up. The responding IC decided to flood the silos with water. Guess what happens to dried corn when it gets wet. It expands greatly which caused one silo to topple over, unexpectedly, 2 days into the incident. Luckily no one was hurt.

                These are also major confined space incidents. There are serious injuries and deaths reported every year because of people going into silos with out ventilating or wearing respiratory protection. Check out these links:

                http://bse.wisc.edu/wiscash/Document...rs/silogas.pdf
                http://www.fsai.on.ca/factsheets/SILOGA~1.PDF
                http://www.nsc.org/public/farmsafe/Silogas.pdf

                Good luck and watch out for any "mad cows".

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                • #9
                  Our SOP for entry when we make it(if we do)is; SCBA, on rope
                  and we also contact the Confined Space Team.
                  AKA: Mr. Whoo-Whoo

                  IAFF Local 3900

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