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I heard a rumor that L.A. County F.D. is switching to a traditional style helmet (Paul Conway or Ben Franklin II, maybe?). Can anyone in L.A. confirm or deny this?
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If I remember reading correctly LACo FD has allowed those who wish to wear traditional style helmets. This came after the WTC murders on September 11, 2001.
If I also recall correctly, they are only allowed to wear Paul Conway, but I could be mistaken. I know Paul Conway has a link on their site for the program that allows this but it no longer works so I son't know what the status is.
It's nice to see real helmets show up out west instead of the condom hats.
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I shall have to ask some folks over with LA CountyEngine 101
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Just curious......... Is it tAditional or tRaditional??? As long as they don't wear those Pompier helmets from France.....Comment
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OOHHH No, befroe you know it they will be able to wear Leather!!!!
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Here is your answer...
No...The LA County Fire Dept. is NOT switching
to traditional helmets. As someone else stated,
personnel were allowed to purchase those helmets
with their own money and wear them for a 1 or 2
year period in honor of FDNY and 9/11. Then they
will stop wearing them.
I got this information from my contact there and
from their department off-duty magazine called
"Straight Streams."
Please consider these facts. LA County, like other
places are in a budget crunch. It would be hard to
justify re-outfitting over 2000 of their FFs with
new $400.00+ helmets. Also, again, we have monster
wildland aka "vegetation" fires out here and LACo
uses their Phenix Fire Dues for both modes-
structure and wildland.
Hope that answers your question.Last edited by CALFFBOU; 06-05-2003, 07:43 PM.Comment
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Re: Here is your answer...
That's a pretty expensive proposition....buying them with your own funds...and then having to cease using them. I can't imagine many FF's took the opportunity...did they?Originally posted by CALFFBOU
As someone else stated,
personnel were allowed to purchase those helmets
with their own money and wear them for a 1 or 2
year period in honor of FDNY and 9/11. Then they
will stop wearing them.Proudly serving as the IACOJ Minister of Information & Propoganda!
Be Safe! Lookouts-Awareness-Communications-Escape Routes-Safety Zones
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Re: Re: Here is your answer...
Yes, it looks like a good bunch of FFs did buy theOriginally posted by NJFFSA16
That's a pretty expensive proposition....buying them with your own funds...and then having to cease using them. I can't imagine many FF's took the opportunity...did they?
helmets. Paul Conway was the supplier but I cant
honestly tell you if they were composite or
leather.
But after the one or two years, they would look nice
in the house as a nice decoration/convo. piece.Comment
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LA County has authorized personnel to purchase and use traditional helmets for a two-year period. It has not been decided what will happen at the end of this period. Discontinuance of use is certainly a possibility, but that is not necessarily what will happen.
The requirement for the helmets is that they need to have NFPA certification. I have seen Cairns leather and non-leather, Conway leather and non-leather, Phenix leather, Morning Pride, Chieftain and various other brands in use. The traditional helmets have become fairly common, and in fact I know of several shifts in which every member has a traditional helmet. Some of the firefighters carry their normal Phenix "First Due" helmets with them in their wildland bag for use at brush fires.Comment
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