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  • #16
    kufcur would you say that would be the best the to do
    is just use a ABC or cut the power and use water to save the rest of the home,school ect. i mean the computer is a loss

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    • #17
      Yea your right, computers are cheaper than houses, school, etc , thanks for the help. And if I hadn't asked this question I won't have learned what I did about Halons.
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      • #18
        Yea, especialy at a school, because all that is on them are grades or essays!

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        • #19
          Yea, I hate essays and grades.
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          All Gave Some
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          • #20
            OK guys, here it is in abbreviated form.

            Halon is a multi purpose extinguishing agent. It does not fit under any one class. It works by bonding with the oxygen molecules in the air, essentially removing them from the chemical equation. It will not hurt you directly, but will remove the oxygen in the air, so obviously you will not be able to breathe.

            Halon is primarily used for electrical fires such as computer rooms and electrical vaults, etc. it does not need to be sprayed directly on the fire, as it will spread as a gas and essentially seek out the oxygen in the area. It was also used on Airplanes for many years, but is now banned as a CFC (cloroflourocarbon, sp?). If you burn off your Halon extinguishers, you cannot get them refilled.

            Halon is the best to use on computers because it does not leave a residue, and does not appreciably change the temperature in the room. CO2 is sometimes used for computers/computer rooms these days, but it causes the computer boards to rapidly freeze and crack therefore destroying the computer.

            We have saved all of our old Halon extinguishers, and now reserve them for various computer complexes we cover. There are also Halon alternatives, but I do not have any personal experience with them yet.
            Never argue with an Idiot. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience!

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            • #21
              you know volly kufur would maybe say the same thing

              if you dont ask a question now. and not when or after some thing happens. if i dont know some thing i'll ask and if thay dont know ask some one else. I really dont think there is a true dumb question...... well there could be

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              • #22
                well ok then mcaldwell thank you for the information
                we was all worng i thank. see some one will come along and help
                but still if the computer is on fire it is gone mcaldwell you agree

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by ccvfd114
                  if the computer is on fire it is gone mcaldwell you agree
                  If it is a $1000 PC, don't worry about it. If it is a $40,000+ network or internet server, you may be able to salvage some of it if your careful. Many of our computer rooms at the resort here are filled with $250,000+ worth of hardware, and the main phone complex is worth a half million.

                  Evaluate the situation carefully before you go spraying water into computer rooms.
                  Never argue with an Idiot. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience!

                  IACOJ

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                  • #24
                    just seeing if my patch came up
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                    • #25
                      mcaldwell how do you put you patch under your name
                      i been trying for ever

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                      • #26
                        so how come halon was banned?

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                        • #27
                          mcaldwell
                          thanks for the help, I guess each situation would require it's own solution after being evaluated
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                          GLT 11/25/2005

                          All Gave Some
                          Some Gave All
                          Never Forget the Sacrifices Made

                          These are my opinions and not those of my dept.

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                          • #28
                            It was a CFC (destroyed the ozone layer).
                            Never argue with an Idiot. They drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience!

                            IACOJ

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                            • #29
                              Kvfcjr
                              They are banned because they are know to deplete the ozone which is a bad thing

                              I was typing when mcaldwell was
                              Last edited by VolFFJohn; 05-31-2003, 09:05 PM.
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                              Proud Soldier in the Iowa Army National Guard
                              GLT 11/25/2005

                              All Gave Some
                              Some Gave All
                              Never Forget the Sacrifices Made

                              These are my opinions and not those of my dept.

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                              • #30
                                Mcaldwell is correct. I don't know about Canada but in the states halon production was halted in 1994 by the clean air act because it contains chloro-fluoro-carbon (freon). The FAA still requires aircraft to exclusively use halon.
                                The product that replaced halon is called INERGEN. It is environmentaly safe and also safe for people. It is effective on both class A&B fires. It is virtually the same density as air, so it doesn't sink to the floor. Instead it spreads quickly and holds it's concentration to quickly extinguish fires. Do a goggle search, lots of info on it.
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