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  • Chin Straps

    So, ah, who actually closes and tightens their chin strap (around their chins that is)? I always put mine up over the little bib on the front of my helmet. Of course the helment used to fall off from time-to-time, but...

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    I put mine up around the back brim of my helmet unless I am working on a ladder where it could get knocked to the ground. My reasoning for this is due to an incident where my helmet got stuck in a part of a fire building. Had my chin strap been tightened, I would have hanged myself. Plus, chin straps are optional in my dept's SOG's. Either way, be safe.

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    • #3
      After having it knocked off from this that and the other thing many times, I wear the strap.

      For the last several years, helmets have been designed to break away when they get hung up. The shell comes off and the impact cap stays on your dome. If it gets hung up and you can't unhang it, just get going and it'll break away.
      It's only my opinion. I do not speak for any group or organization I belong to or associate with or people I know - especially my employer. If you like it, we can share it, you don't have to give me credit. If you don't, we are allowed to disagree too (but be ready to be challenged, you may be on to something I'm not). That's what makes America great!

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      • #4
        Use the strap, it won't help you lying on the ground next to you.

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        • #5
          your safety equiptment is only effective if you use it right. I almost always wear mine. only time i take mine off is on the way back to the station in the truck,or if it's super hot i take it off a minute(outside the fire if i'm takeing a breather)(then i take off my helmet) then i put it back on right away. I don't wanna say it's as bad as not wearing a Nomax hood into a fire but it's on the same principal.

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          • #6
            Try checking with your helmet manufacture to see
            if they have a ratchet that will fit your style
            helmet (device you see on construction helmets
            hard-hats).It worked for the Cairns New Yorker style helmet.You could pretty much hang upside
            down and that bad-boy was sticking to your head.

            STAY LOW-STAY SAFE

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            • #7
              Mongo, as usual, has hit the nail on the head. Use the chin strap. As he stated, the helmet is designed to break away from the liner in the event of an outside force, granted it is great enough.

              The strap was put on the lid for a reason...to use. As uncomfortable as wearing it may seem, try explaining why it was wrapped around the brim to the guy who has a broken nose cause your lid fell of and hit him in the face.

              Safety is everyone's job.
              Begin with the end in mind.

              Be safe out there!!

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              • #8
                For me, it depends on the call.... MVA, around the back brim of my hat. Fire call, chin strap comes down!
                Joel

                Lets never forget the events of 9-11

                If you sent us to HELL, WE'D PUT IT OUT!!

                **And of course these are only my opinion and only mine. Don't take it out on anyone else but me.**

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                • #9
                  Maybe I was in the service too long, but I had it pounded into my skull against "John Wayne-ing" it, i.e. strap hanging down, so I've always had the chin strap on.
                  Plus, I had a good reinforcement of this when, as a newbie, I had the strap hooked around the front brim while we were doing cleanup at an apartment fire. I was running a wetvac, and had to bend down, and didn't have the ratchet tight enough. Sure enough, "PLOP!" into the water went my helmet. And of course, I had an audience of all of my dept. officers, plus a few of the neighboring dept's as well. DOHH!!
                  And was glad that I did wear it the other night at our first housefire of the year when I had the nozzle at the backdoor during overhaul. My partner was in the kitchen, and pulled a piece of wall away, revealing a void space under the staircase. It was burning pretty good, so he stepped back, and I hit it a good shot. In the midst of that, I suddenly get hit from above with a shower of debris from an upstairs window, as somebody pitched some junk out without looking to see if the area was clear. A couple of decent sized pieces rocked me, but was no problem. If my strap hadn't been tight, I'm sure it would have came off and I'd probably gotten hurt.
                  Just some thoughts.....



                  [ 01-13-2002: Message edited by: Tanker06 ]

                  HazMat
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                  We gotta be nuts...we're running in when the rats & roaches are running out!

                  Let No Victim's Ghost Say That We Didn't Try
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                  Disclaimer:
                  These are my opinions, and only mine, and do not reflect the views of my department.

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                  • #10
                    Most of the guys on my job don't wear them. They end up between the brim and the bourkes. Most of us hold to the maxim that they are geek and if the helmet fits right you don't need them.
                    "I have no ambition in this world but one, and that is to be a fireman. The position may, in the eyes of some, appear to be a lowly one; but we know the work which a fireman has to do believe that his is a noble calling."

                    Edward F. Croker
                    Chief 1899-1911
                    Fire Dept. City of New York

                    HOOK N' CAN of the I.A.C.O.J.

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                    • #11
                      Not using your chin strap? thats like puting on your seatbelt just be for the crash.buckle up for safty.

                      Dwayne
                      Dwayne S

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                      • #12
                        Since I`m a Junior I`m not going in, so my strap just stays wrapped around the back. As for the guys that do go in, some use the strap all the time, most don`t. But if it comes in as a fire, and if they have to put a mask on they`ve gotta use the strap, or the helmet just falls off.

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                        • #13
                          BFD45: as a junior now is the time for you to get into good habits, not bad ones. If you don't wear the strap now will you wear it when you can go in?? If you start wearing it now you won't have to think about it later.
                          As an instructor I insist that my students wear it. It's called a chin strap, not a back of the helmet strap. And I don't care if it's a Metro, a Philly or a New Yorker, in 27 years in the fire service I have never seen the back of a helmet fall off.
                          ADSN/WFLD is right, it won't help you lying on the ground next to you. And even the ones with a rachet can get knocked off. After all, how many times do you hang upside down during a fire call??
                          Be safe, wear all gear the way it is designed.
                          Steve Dragon
                          FFII, Fire Instructor II, Fire Officer I, Fire Appartus Driver Operator Certified
                          Volunteers are never "off duty".
                          http://www.bufd7.org

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                          • #14
                            I always use my chinstrap but I replaced the stock one with a Milwaukee strap. It is a two-section strap that uses Velcro to secure together. It is easy to put one even after putting on your SCBA. I have also had my helmet knocked off and the Velcro broke away and did not hurt my head or neck. I recommend the strap to all firefighters I work with.
                            "Fire Prevention is our Intention"

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                            • #15
                              Wellll being a junior also I SOMETIMES wear it on the back of my helmet but 98% of the time I wear it correctly... but its not that we get yelled at.. it because my helmet has a tendency to fall off my head alot of times.. there for if im all strapped up im good to go....and also if you dont where a strap the officer of the truck has a tendency to get a little ****ed off at the cadets... Like if im standing around at a fire all i'd unhook it and let it hang but soon as they tell me to go do somethin i strap up
                              Andrew
                              Firefighter/EMT
                              New Jersey

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