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  • Securitex Gear....DANGEROUS??????

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  • #2
    My dept has had Securitex for a couple of years. To the best of my knowledge nobody has yet been burned. (YET!) The stitching is falling apart on most of the gear though. Zippers coming loose, seams coming apart etc. We are not getting very good support form our dealer either.
    I belive we will likely be investigating alternatives to Securitex as we begin to replace the stuff that is falling apart.

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    • #3
      Can anyone tell me if these problems are with all securetex liners or just some from a particular year/make? I currently have a set of securetex, and the liner is having the same problems with the seams coming apart! I never gave it too much thought, we just keep fixing it as it seperates! On another note, I am not too happy with with my outers either. They just don't stand up to the punishment of everyday f.f.'s! My securetex is my volunteer f.d. gear, it would never stand up as my career f.d. gear! The reflective is no longer reflective, and alot of spots are wearing thin, this after just a few years of service! Any thoughts let me know!

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        • #5
          intheoven,

          our department bought 5 sets of Securitex about seven months ago. We went with it based on price, primarily. Boy, were we stupid! With this brand of turnouts, we really found out that "you get what you pay for". I usually am on a engine company and see my fair share of fire and heat. I have had Morning Pride for about 3 years and it is still in good condition. After just one fire, the Securitex gear had started to tear and the heat on the firemen was almost unbearable. To those considering it, DON'T!!!

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          • #6
            I have Quaker right now which is probably the cheapest cost wise out there today, plus it is made right here in PA and I love the stuff.
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            1. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
            2. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the Christian faith.
            3. Two Baptists do not recognize each other in the liquor store.

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            • #7
              As a Volunteer Firefighter for 30 years and a Career Firefighter for 21 1/2 years and a fire service insturctor, I will share this with you. I have used or been involved with some sort of testing on everything but Morning Pride and found all of them to be decent gear except 1 of them. Since most manufacturers all buy their fabric from the same source it boils down to the construction features. Thats all I am allowed to say in this forum.

              ****This is my opinion as a FIREFIGHTER IN AMERICA, Exercising my Freedom of Speach. This opinion is only mine and does not reflect opinions expressed by my employer and has no association with my work and is expressed by me as a volunteer firefighter and instructor.*****

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              09-11 .. 343 "All Gave Some..Some Gave ALL" God Bless..R.I.P.
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              The comments, opinions, and positions expressed here are mine. They are expressed respectfully, in the spirit of safety and progress. They do not reflect the opinions or positions of my employer or my department.

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              • #8
                My own personal experience it is junk. I also have some real concerns about it's ability to hold up in high heat conditions and that it may be determined in the future that it is not providing adequite protection of Firefighter's currently using it. I am currently testing a set of newer set of Globe the previous set I had about 7 yrs ago it has a lot of patches on it and wouldn't have given you 2 cents for it. So far the newer set that I am testing, I do like it so far except for the collar the damn thing you can just about pull it over as a hood.



                GOD Bless FDNY and ALL of the lost Brother's and their families.

                Dave
                Firefighter
                FTM, PTB, RFB.

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                • #9
                  We use Securitex gear as well. We have had several cases where our guys have had their gear discolor when exposed to radiant heat. We have black gear which will turn red when exposed to high heat. Is this common to all manufacturers gear or is it more noticable because it is black?

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                  • #10
                    Not taking up for any particular gear manufacturer but most is not all do not manufacturer the material, they just assemble it. The problem with the radiant heat issue (with black it is a more noticable thing when it turns red)is that with the breathable moisture barriers allowing you to perspire and take the moisture away, it is hard to gauge how hot the outer shell is getting. If you have noticed you have seen a increase in the number of melted helmets from in the past, same cause and effect that is allowing us to get deeper into a fire before we are experiencing heat.

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                    • #11


                      [ 01-16-2002: Message edited by: captstanm1 ]

                      09-11 .. 343 "All Gave Some..Some Gave ALL" God Bless..R.I.P.
                      ------------------------------
                      IACOJ Minister of Southern Comfort
                      "Purple Hydrant" Recipient (3 Times)
                      BMI Investigator
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                      The comments, opinions, and positions expressed here are mine. They are expressed respectfully, in the spirit of safety and progress. They do not reflect the opinions or positions of my employer or my department.

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                      • #12
                        I've had a set of securitex gear for about a year.
                        It has seen a decent amount of fire, with no obvious problems. One of my co-workers did however experience some unusual problems with the gear when exposed to high temperatures.

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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Well anyway... I have seen some people on Ebay put this stuff up for bid and they can't even give it away.

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                            • #15
                              Why do we get so soon old and so late smart? Price price price. Why would the cheapest be the best? I may be a volunteer, but that just means I deserve the best turnout available. Selling it to council can be tough, but hey it keeps you sharp. One of the best ads I ever saw explained it clearly. "If you've got a $30.00 head, buy that $30.00 helmet. Otherwise buy Bell" Same idea for turnout gear. 30 member volunteer dept serving 1300 pop. with NO cheap turnout gear. BTW I do not sell fire gear.
                              This is of course only my humble opinion, but then again, its likely the only one that matters.

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