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    My department is looking at purchasing some reconditioned SCBA's that have been reconditioned to NFPA's latest standard. The two types that I have looked at are SCOTT and ISI. My department has 4 Scott 2.2's and like them but I have also found some ISI Magnum SCBA's but I am unfamiliar with these. I am wanting to know if anyone uses or has used this type and what did you think of these...

  • #2
    The scott's are good packs 2.2, 4.5, air pac 50 are basically all the same and it is easy for firefighters to use any of them. While I have seen the ISI, I don't have much experience with them.
    I currently use the scotts and the MSA MMR and like the scotts better, if that helps.

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    • #3
      My Department currently has all ISI Magnums, and we really like them. They are easy to maintain, and have worked well with fit testing for all of our members. We also have not had to many problems with them in the almost 10 years that we have had them. Hope this helps.

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      • #4
        STICK TO ONE TYPE IT MAKES LIFE ALLOT EASIER. OUR DEPARTMENT HAS SCOTT AND IS WELL PLEASED.
        "Illegitimis non carborundum."

        - Gen. Joseph Stilwell
        (Lat., "Don't let the *~#%&S grind you down.")

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        • #5
          I think I would just stick to the best!SCOTT. We have about ten and never have trouble out of the bottles or the packs themselves.

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          • #6
            scott is the best

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            • #7
              Stick with the Scott paks. You will be sorry you ever bought the ISI paks. We just got rid of the ISI paks. We were using the Magnums, Magnum 2's, and the Vikings. The problems we had with the Magnums, was the fact that just about everyone that wore one could not get a good seal with the mask. The Vikings, were a whole different issue. With the Vikings, we had more regulator problems than you could shake a stick at, and the Voice Vectors kept falling apart on us. We used these paks for several years, and were more than happy to get rid of them, and replace them with Scott 50's. Like I said at the begining, Stick With The Scott's.

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              • #8
                Go with the Scott 2.2 packs! we have 6 2.2 and 6 4.5 packs A word of advice we keep a "kit" on each truck of "o" rings gaskets,regulator gaskets etc. on each truck for just in case.(They can be used on either 2.2 or 4.5) We haven't had a failure yet but it is cheap insurance.

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                • #9
                  Add one more vote for the Scott. We have been using the 2.2s for years and are in the process of switching to the Air-Pak 50s. I have been very happy with the 2.2 and the 50 is very similar and almost anyone familiar with the 2.2 can switch to the 50 with no problem whatsoever. Our new 50s have the lightweight bottles that make them very comfortable, and they also have the integrated PASS device so that you don't forget to turn them on. Both packs use the same mask so that helps keep things simple. And to top it all off I have never had any problem with any Scott pack and that includes going all the way back to the old 2A packs that we had before the 2.2.

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                  • #10
                    I too need to cast my vote in favor of Scott. We use mostly ISI Magnums (unfortunately), but have 2 Scott 4.5's on the ladder truck. Whenever I can, I use a Scott 4.5 rather than the ISI 4.5's on that truck. ISI's break easy, the high-pressure hose has a tendency to come loose frequently (from truck vibration), and parts are a pain to get for them.

                    I'd recommend the Scotts...I wish we'd go back to them.
                    I can think of no more stirring symbol of man's humanity to man than a fire engine.

                    --Kurt Vonnegut

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                    • #11
                      Stick with the Scotts, our department had Scott, bought 150 new Brand x, sold them for 10 cents on the dollar, bought new scotts. If nothing else the vibralert low air warning is worth its weight in gold.

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                      • #12
                        Scott is great, don't use them on our dept. but I know they are good from past experience. ISI are not bad but have their problems. We are using the Magnums and have a great deal of the on off switch breaking off the reg. a real pain in the ***. The simon fastner they used on the strap for the bottle has been changed out and has a offset flip type cam latch but that has to upgraded also because it does not hold the strap tight. We have not had any problems with masks fitting properly and everyone knows that us grunts come in all different shapes and sizes, some uglier than others . The best thing about ISI and a great selling feature is that you can repair a full pack on the tailboard of a rig in the middle of the night in the middle of the winter with a pair of needle nose pliers. We have not had a problem getting parts up here in Canada either. If you do have a problem getting parts go directly to the manafacture and ride their ***, they will get the rep to pull up his socks asap.

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