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  • #16
    Our township manager ordered ALL stickers/decals removed from our helmets 2 days before 9/11....that was to include AMERICAN FLAGS , SHAMROCKS, anything that meant anything to us. I've yet to see a decal removed since...as a matter of fact...I'm starting to see more decals. On 9/11, I went to our local uniform supply company and had them sew an American Flag on all my station shirts (Yes..we dont have them on our uniforms..thank you very much manager) When I showed up to work ("not uniform") I made it clear that for the flag to come off my shoulder, she would have to rip my arm out of its socket first.

    Update....She is buying flags for all station wear!
    Willy T
    164
    Teaneck FD
    NJ

    ***my views and opinions do not relect that of my department***

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    • #17
      A picture of one of our ladder trucks with a memorial FDNY across the front was featured in one of the slide shows the Sunday after WTC. Two weeks ago, out comes a notice to remove such from all App and PPE. A FF riding in charge became concerned and removed the FDNY from the front of the truck. Most companies have complied. It saddens me that those in positions of authority so quickly forget. The notice also said they were considering a magnetic memorial to FDNY for the rigs. I guess that way they figured they could put it on or remove it depending on who they want to impress. Best part is that all but a few of our apparatus are aluminum bodied.
      And these guys were smart enough to get promoted 4 to 5 times? I guess to a chief it is just a job.
      See You At The Big One

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      • #18
        Pak-Man,
        Let me know how many you need to outfit your department and I will send them to you at no cost! The only thing I ask is for some pictures with you guys wearing them! Do we have a deal? Let me know and I will send them to you.
        Always remember the CHARLESTON 9

        Captain Grant Mishoe, Curator of History
        North Charleston and American LaFrance Fire Museum
        "You'll never know where you're going until you remember where you came from"
        www.legacyofheroes.org
        www.firehistory.org
        www.sconfire.com

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        • #19
          What a shame.......at our department our officers saw the decal Ihad purchasrd and at an officers meeting bought one for everyones helmet to be put in the same place !! We must remember our brothers !!
          IACOJ both divisions and PROUD OF IT !
          Pardon me sir.. .....but I believe we are all over here !
          ATTENTION ALL SHOPPERS: Will the dead horse please report to the forums.(thanks Motown)
          RAY WAS HERE 08/28/05
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          I'm sorry, I haven't been paying much attention for the last 3 hours.....what were we discussing?
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          • #20
            Just for everyones information, this is the helmet sticker that is being discussed.

            I have about 500 left.

            Grant Mishoe www.sconfire.com

            [ 11-03-2001: Message edited by: sconfire ]
            Always remember the CHARLESTON 9

            Captain Grant Mishoe, Curator of History
            North Charleston and American LaFrance Fire Museum
            "You'll never know where you're going until you remember where you came from"
            www.legacyofheroes.org
            www.firehistory.org
            www.sconfire.com

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            • #21
              I see nothing wrong with honoring those that made the Supreme Sacrifice @ W.T.C. Our department even went as far to purchase decals alot like the one sconfire demonstrated. It is the FDNY Emblem with The American Flag back-grounded with "Remembering our Fallen Heros" "September 11, 2001" in Borders around the emblem. I t looks pretty sharp. We bought them and put them on the trucks between the doors on the cabs. They measure about 6" X 6" and do stand-out. We will not be removing these decals -- they are a permeinent addition to our equipment.
              ***The Opinions expressed here are strictly my own and do not reflect those of the Department to which I am a Member ! ***

              Stratford Fire Co. # 1.."Any Job ~ Any Place ~ Any Time"

              Check us Out www.stratfordfire.com

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              • #22
                HiHo, pak-man:
                Chief Reason here. I understand that you guys are having a sticker controversy. Maybe just a short confab with the chief-something like "Chief, the guys want to put a small remembrance of 9-11-01 on our helmets. Do we have your support?"-would have staved off this unpleasant turn of events. Notice that I didn't say, "permission". It's easy to say "no" if you are asking for permission. It's alot tougher to say "no", if you are being asked to "support" the men. Anyway, we are a volunteer department in Illinois. I ordered the stickers for the helmets and they will stay on PERMANENTLY. I also allow the others to put other stickers on their helmets as long as they don't cover up the essential ones and are in good taste. "No fear" stickers are ok but no Calvins peeing on a fire. I feel that it lets them personalize their gear a little and it doesn't hurt a damn thing.
                I just wanted to let you know that whitehats are not all the same. Some of us can make good decisions and contribute positive efforts to the ever-changing roles of our fire departments. If your chief can explain to me how wearing a memorial sticker on a helmet has anything to do with the effectiveness of the department, I would be glad to listen. If you have his email, I would be glad to drop him a line in your support. I find it commendable that you and yours are remembering your fallen brothers and sisters in NYC. I find it shameful that your chief doesn't support that.
                And just so you know, my position is elected each year and I have been chief for fifteen years. I feel good about that, because prior to my term, a chief was appointed for life or until he got PO'd and quit. I love my guys and I love what I do. If your chief won't compromise, decorate your personal clothing, vehicles, etc. He can't take that away from you. You're good people; don't let him change that.
                Stay safe.
                Visit www.iacoj.com
                Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
                RIP HOF Robert J. Compton(ENG6511)

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                • #23
                  Sconfire:
                  I just ordered sew-on patches that look just like your decal. Are you selling patches too, or did I order mine from someone else with that same design? Just wondering. Neat sticker, though.
                  Thanks.
                  Visit www.iacoj.com
                  Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
                  RIP HOF Robert J. Compton(ENG6511)

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                  • #24
                    well 5 guy's in my department have fdny memorial stickers on there helmets including my self the hell with looking uniform it shows pride and respect for the for the work you do as a firefighter and respect for our fallen fdny brothers. there are even stickers on our trucks. your chief has to take a reality check and just maybe he will remember where he came from

                    [ 11-03-2001: Message edited by: capt311 ]

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                    • #25
                      Uniformity I don't dispute to a degree when it comes to department uniforms and turnout gear. However, we all sacrafice something of us each personally to the service and think that our helmet is something that we should be able to personalize for us to show the personal side of each of us and our committment towards the Fire Service. It's my own opinion that FF's should be able to add that personal side of ourselves by allowing FF's to add a piece of themselves to their helmets. My FDNY memorial sticker was approved by the Chief and I dare anyone to tell me I can't have it on there now. The proceeds from the sticker go towards the families of the lost Brothers and Sister's of FDNY..

                      God Bless FDNY and all of the lost Brother's.

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                      • #26
                        Hi Everybody,

                        Fireman George: I saw the picture of your truck with the FDNY sticker on the front. I thought it looked sharp. I saved the picture and used it as my wallpaper for several days.
                        As far as the sticker issue, I think that a FFs helmet is the most personal thing they can have. If members of a department want to have memorial stickers on their helmet, they should have the right to do so.
                        Where I work, (not a FF yet, still in school), they said we could wear flag shirts on fridays. I asked about FDNY & NYPD shirts. They said no. Several of us wore them to work anyway and they have since changed their minds. We bent the rules a little bit but The Brothers and Sisters of FDNY need all the support we can give 'em.
                        Just my opinions.

                        Stay safe,
                        BKE
                        BKE
                        Proud to be an American.

                        "No animals were used in the posting of this thread. Two sticks of bubble gum and a hulahoop yes, animals no..."

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                        • #27
                          Chief Reason,
                          The person that created the design from is David Kearny of the Philly FD. He created the artwork and has had the patches made on order. Unless someone is making them without his knowledge, this is most likely the person you are getting the patches from. You can get the information for these patches through www.incidentpage.com

                          I received permission to use his design for the vinyl stickers. I think it is a fantastic tribute to our fallen brethren. He created a very nice design!
                          Always remember the CHARLESTON 9

                          Captain Grant Mishoe, Curator of History
                          North Charleston and American LaFrance Fire Museum
                          "You'll never know where you're going until you remember where you came from"
                          www.legacyofheroes.org
                          www.firehistory.org
                          www.sconfire.com

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                          • #28
                            Sconfire:
                            As soon as I read David Kearney, it rang a bell. That's where we ordered the patches from. He limits you to 25. I wonder what will happen if a department is larger than 25 members? Anyway, you did better than I did. I asked for permission from the New Jersey Herald to use the photo of the three firefighters raising the flag to raise money for the FF families and got a big, fat "NO" for my efforts. It says a lot about David Kearney that he gave you permission to use his design. He should be proud. I noticed that right after my request was rejected, that picture was showing up on everything. I expect to see it on a box of Wheaties anyday.
                            Hats off to you for offering to send pak-man some stickers.
                            Never give in; never give up!
                            Visit www.iacoj.com
                            Remember Bradley Golden (9/25/01)
                            RIP HOF Robert J. Compton(ENG6511)

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                            • #29
                              I think you should be allowed to honor all of those who died. I am not a firefighter, but I agree with the Captain. If everyone wears one, then it will be uniform. Just put one on every helmet. Let's rememeber them always for they did give all.

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                              • #30
                                yea, i bought some of those stickers too. let anyone of my department officers tell me to remove it (when I finally get around to putting it on). But then since my Capt is in FDNY, and our 1st ***. Chief (intentional) is from FDNY also, don't think there will be any waves of controversey created.

                                I bought another for my helmet in FDNY-EMS too. Same thing, dock me suspend me, but it ain't comin off. Too f-n' bad!!!!!!
                                May God bless all the people and families who have lost
                                their lives on 9-11-01, to those also lost on Flight 587, and to the rescuers who responded to both.

                                "I'm not saying it's right, i'm just saying (the way it is)."

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