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  • bubblesboyd
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    Tank06 -

    I want to let you know that I'm embarrassed for the treatment you encountered with Red Cross. I'd want someone to tell me about stuff like that because I would do something about it. It isn't the Red Cross I believe in or how I respond as a member of the Red Cross.

    Every organization is as good as its people. I believe that the Salvation Army is a good organization.....yet, it my town the Salvation Army took the donated toys and food for local families and kept it or sold the items. Yes, the people were charged. The organization....Salvation Army....lost all the trust the community had in what they do. So, what you say makes sense to me. And I know my sincere horror and apologies does not take away want you are feeling - I do hope you know that no all of us are like what you went through. I still believe in the Salvation Army because it was the people that saw an opportunity to be selfish and didn't care the effect and pain it would cause....

    Keep Safe.

    P.S. I like your quotes following your message.

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  • Firediver
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    FFNola,

    I am not saying to get rid of them, or if you want donate to them, that's fine. I do think ,though, that thier upper adminstration policies need to be revamped and changes need to be made. They have done some good here in south west LA, but it is funny how when we have a dive call out in one parish, they are there with bells on, yet in another parish on a long fire call, you never see them.

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  • FFNOLA
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    This incident will not stop me from giving to the Red Cross, for without them who would fill the void. The Red Cross preforms a vital service throughout the United States providing food ,shelter and medical care during natural diasters or those caused by man.

    Maybe if we donated to the Red Cross before diasters struck they would be better able to set aside money for future incidents which are sure to come.

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  • Tanker06
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    The Red Cross won't get a cent from me. I learned my lesson while I was on Active Duty in Germany. A buddy needed to go home on emergency leave because his father had a heart attack. It was in between paydays, and being Joe Private, he didn't have a lot of $$, so he needed some help. At donation time for CFC, we'd always had it harped on us to donate to the Red Cross, as supposedly they helped out people if they had to go on emergency leave, etc. So we called them to see if they could help out. At first, we were just blown off, finally getting somebody that said they could get him the $$ for the ticket, but he'd have to pay it back the next payday in full, etc. Totally in contrary to what we'd been told before. When I heard that, I went to finance, and had them stop my monthly payment, and sent it to the Diabetes Foundation, or something like that. They just torqued me off, and I have no use for them. And this latest fiasco just lends credence to my thoughts about them.

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  • Josie035
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    Fire Line:

    it is true that some of the blood collected after 9/11 had to be discarded...if it is not used or frozen within a certain amount of time, it is no longer good...

    one of the complaints that i heard on this message board is that people did not want their money going to purchase equipment needed to preserve this blood...

    also stated earlier is that in the beginning, more people were thought to be saved and quite a bit of blood would be needed...no one anticipated the significant loss of life that occurred...

    we will not be able to make everyone happy...and there will be some who still believe we are not out there for the good of people...i hope though that my messages have helped to clear some of that up...and just by the response of national has proven that you are being heard...all of you...and we are doing the very best we can...

    i think patience and tolerance is in order here...if you disagree with something, speak your mind...but be careful how you put things...you may just end up hurting those who need the help most...do what you can to change what isn't right...but do it constructively...being mindful of others...

    Josie

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  • Fire Line
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    I heard on the news that the Red Cross has dumped some of the blood collected since 911 because they have run out of storage space.

    Things like this and the mishandling of the "Liberty Fund" makes people cynical about all groups.

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  • hctrouble25
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    I am very happy that they are finally doing the right thing...thank you Red Cross! You have won back a donater for future causes!

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  • no_name_FF
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    Originally posted by Josie035:
    The changes adopted by the American Red Cross National Board of Governors at the recommendation of the organization’s new leader and CEO Harold Decker will make the immediate and long-term needs of the people affected by the September 11 terrorist attacks the sole focus of the Liberty Fund, which has received $543 million to date. Top officials at Red Cross national headquarters said programs that had been part of the Liberty Fund such as the Strategic Blood Reserve, community outreach and Armed Forces services will continue but will be funded from sources other than the Liberty Fund.
    Great!

    I think that this is all people were asking for.

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  • Josie035
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    as i have promised, i would let you know each step of the way what is going on...i have made a strong effort to get your posts/opinions to natl...i took quotes from a number of you to let them know exactly how you are all feeling...

    i am so happy to present this to you...i just received this today...

    to all you heros out there...keep up the good work...and if you see a red cross worker out there...please understand that we are only there to help...

    there is strength in numbers...i believe that..

    Josie

    RED CROSS ANNOUNCES MAJOR CHANGES IN LIBERTY FUND

    Fund to be solely used for people affected by September 11 tragedies
    Family Gift Program extended to a full year
    Database to be created, making it easier for victims to get help


    The American Red Cross has announced a series of sweeping changes regarding its Liberty Disaster Fund to increase support for people affected by the September 11 terrorist attacks while also making it easier for them to access needed help. The Red Cross established the Liberty Fund shortly after the September 11 tragedies as a separate, segregated account to fund relief services related to terrorism.

    The changes adopted by the American Red Cross National Board of Governors at the recommendation of the organization’s new leader and CEO Harold Decker will make the immediate and long-term needs of the people affected by the September 11 terrorist attacks the sole focus of the Liberty Fund, which has received $543 million to date. Top officials at Red Cross national headquarters said programs that had been part of the Liberty Fund such as the Strategic Blood Reserve, community outreach and Armed Forces services will continue but will be funded from sources other than the Liberty Fund.

    The Red Cross will provide families whose loved ones were lost or seriously injured in the September 11 attacks approximately $111 million in additional financial support before the end of the year through its family gift cash program, extending financial support from the initial three-month period to a full year. The forthcoming checks will provide another six months of basic living expenses such as housing, food, utilities, tuition, childcare and healthcare. The Red Cross projects that it will have spent about $275 million overall by year’s end to help people affected by the disasters, half of what has been received in the Liberty Fund. In January 2002, the organization will present a plan detailing how the remaining funds will be spent consistent with the changes announced today. Because victims of disasters often require years of support before they are able to resume relatively normal lives, funds must be distributed prudently and in the manner that meets the needs of all the people and takes into account all relief resources.

    The Red Cross also has decided to provide the names of 25,000 families it has helped to a database that will be shared among relief agencies. This step will build on coordination already underway among the agencies and public officials. These coordinated efforts will make it easier for families of victims to get the help they deserve. In order to protect the confidentiality of these families, the organization said the database will be restricted to participating relief agencies and that affected individuals will be given an opportunity to opt out of the program without jeopardizing any help from the Red Cross.

    “Americans have spoken loudly and clearly that they want our relief efforts directed at the victims of the September 11 tragedies,” said Harold Decker, who was appointed CEO of the American Red Cross two weeks ago. “We deeply regret that our activities over the past eight weeks have not been as sharply focused as America wants, nor as focused as the victims of this tragedy deserve. The victims of this terrible tragedy have been our first priority, and beginning today, they will be the only priority of the Liberty Fund.”

    “The people of this country have given the Red Cross their hard-earned dollars, their trust and very clear direction for our September 11 relief efforts,” said David T. McLaughlin, chairman of the American Red Cross Board of Governors. “Regrettably, it took us too long to hear their message. Now we must change course to restore the faith of our donors and the trust of Americans and, most importantly, to devote 100 percent of our energy and resources to helping the victims of the terrorist attacks.”

    In another change, the Red Cross board also decided that the operating costs for the Liberty Fund, including the toll-free lines that have been used to locate victims, will be funded to the extent possible by the interest earned on the fund balance.

    Decker reiterated that the Red Cross has ceased active fund raising for the Liberty Fund and that it will remain a separate, segregated fund. He also said that the U.S. Army Audit Agency would be invited to audit the fund along with KPMG LLP and that audit results would be made public. The Red Cross has spent $137 million from the Liberty Fund to date on behalf of people affected by the disasters.

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  • bubblesboyd
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    FFNOLA -

    I agree with you. My imput in this forum has been consistent in asking people to not jump to conclusions because a media report stated someone or an organization did something...but to ask questions and keep in mind that our perspective is based on our own backgrounds, belief system, and prejudice. Yes - Red Cross screwed up!! They have said this themselves... I believed all along that the money WAS going to the needs of the people. And I think it is wonderful that people have asked questions and demanded answers. Now we know facts, not rumours - there is a difference!!!

    What I now ask of the forum members is to keep in mind that thousands of Red Cross Volunteers are responding and fulfilling the needs of the people. Please do not let Red Cross's humanitarian and disaster work become tainted because of the actions of a few - not the majority.

    If you want your donation back - approach Red Cross and ask for it back....you have your receipt to show as a record of the amount donated.

    I still believe in the Canadian Red Cross and I will still be responding to New York to assist the American Red Cross because I believe in what they are doing and that an extra set of hands are needed, especially now.

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  • FFNOLA
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    Bubbles you are right 9-11-01 is like no other event and hopefully there will never be another like it.

    Yes the Red Cross does do many wonderful things but on this one they screwed up big big time. Firefighters and civilians gave their money to the R.C. with the intent that it would go to the FF/PO/Victims of the WTC attack. If the donars had known that the money would not be used for what they intended then I sure many wouldn't have given.Don't you??

    I think the Red Cross finally realized what a public realiations mess it had on its hands with the public and congressional outcry and decided to do the right thing and use the money for what it was donated for and that is to help and assit the victims of the WTC attack.

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  • bubblesboyd
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    It has been reported tonight, after I just completed my previous forum message, that American Red Cross has spent the 9-11 Fund in other areas. Yes - I am disappointed; however, I have not said anything that I don't stand behind:

    I still believe in the front-line work that Red Cross does.

    I believe in the 7 Fundamental Principles that makes up the organization's Code of Conduct.

    I will continue to volunteer with the Red Cross.

    I will continue to speak with pride and respect of Red Cross's work for humanity.

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  • bubblesboyd
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    Dear Friends -

    I have read all the forums and I am enjoying the wide variety of responses, fears, and concerns. Whatever organization we know, believe in, represent, like, or dislike there will always be issues that we have opinions on. Thank you for sharing them. I agree with some, disagree with others - however, enjoy the fact we can do this without being imprisoned or outcasted.

    September 11th, 2001 is like no other event we have ever experienced. Everything changed that day!!! I'm sorry that so many have decided that Red Cross is doing horrible things with the 550 million dollars. Did you know that the American Red Cross was on the job within 20 minutes? And will remain on the job till there is no more for them to do? They opened up more than 65 shelters for workers and individuals who lost their homes, as a result of the World Trade Centre explosions. And continue to operate these shelters....all with volunteers. They have introduced a program of immediate response that allow family members to come together to attend funeral and memorial services, to be provided with psychological support, to be assisted for lost income and funeral expenses. American Red Cross has also served in excess of 6+ million meals to disaster recovery workers, demolition specialists, iron workers, and other individuals involved in the unpleasant and difficult retrieval and reconstruction phase. And you know what? It is the generousity of the public to allow this to happen. Thank you.

    As I had mentioned earlier - September 11th, 2001 is like no other event and a great deal of the response and recovery will be known to us as we work throught it. I, too, work in disaster services. I work very hard to teach and encourage people to be proactive and to get involved. I was not disappointed at all by the incredible outpouring of donations and emotions - still evident today!! I celebrate in us all coming together. "United We Stand"...

    As everyone in this forum states their opinion and their diappointment. I continue to celebrate the Red Cross. I have one final point to add that I often find so difficult to get across to people - and that is thinking LONG TERM. Your money, as donated, is worth 550 million dollars. The needs are being met and the American Red Cross ANTICIPATES THAT THIS RESPONSE AND RELIEF EFFORT IN PROVIDING SUPPORT TO INDIVIDUALS (meeting the needs of the people) IMPACTED BY THE SAVAGE EVENTS OF SEPTEMBER 11th WILL BE A TEN-YEAR UNDERTAKING. But what many have indicated in this forum is Red Cross being underhanded or untrustworthy because Red Cross, due to its mandate as the leading disaster response organization in the world, had to put their own personal feelings on the back-burner and launch a plan of response to meet the needs (not the wants) of the community now and in the future.

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  • DFDRev
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    I used to be a Red Cross instructor. They have wonderful educational programs. I SUPPORT THIS. I am currently the Blood Drive coordinator at my work. The staff has been great to work with. I SUPPORT THIS.

    I also have to deal with the Disaster Services. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS - IT STINKS! As mentioned earlier in this post - in our area they only come when the press is there. It once took 13 hours for a team to arrive at the scene of a fire. This city is their district headquarters! Pittiful.

    Face it - if it's TRUSTWORTHY disaster services and support you're looking for call the Salvation Army!

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  • no_name_FF
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    I guess the people who are screaming "How dare you criticize the Red Cross" haven't really read this thread.

    The point that I have said a few times is this:

    The Red Cross created the "Liberty Fund"
    The Liberty Fund was for "Sept. 11" disaster relief.
    The Red Cross collected $550 million.
    The Red Cross announced that $250 million will go to victims of the disaster.
    The Red Cross announced that $300 million of the money collected will go to non-Sept. 11 Red Cross programs and administrative expenses.

    This is wrong. Don't create a fund for one thing and then get generous Americans to donate 550 million and then say, "we were only kidding, we are spending the money on other things."

    To the Red Cross, I say this:

    Keep the money in an account. Use the interest to fund whatever you want. Wait two or three years and make sure that the actual victims of this tragedy are taken care of. If after two or three years, there is no need for that money to these actual victims, then use it elsewhere.

    Publicly announcing that you are diverting the funds only weeks after the tragedy is a big mistake. If the Red Cross doesn't want to lose in the future, they should put the money aside and don't worry about these other projects now.

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