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  • No American Flags on Berkeley F.D. Apparatus!?

    No American Flags on Berkeley CA F.D. Apparatus!?
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  • #2
    I think that it is a disgrace that the City of Berkley will not fly the American Flag. Shame on that city and thoughs that listen to them! You should be proud of that flag and for what it stands for!

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    • #3
      I'm sorry but if you ask me this is pittyful,you live in this country than you should have to except and repect the flag of this country. If you wanT to live here you will repect things like that, you don't like it, leave and go somewhere that flies the flag you like, and also while i'm on this topic i think it is rather poor and distasteful that there are actually fire fighters in this world that are against flying flags on apparatus such as the incident in miami-dade. It's about time this country stops letting other religions, creeds and race's. decide how our country is to be run. you move to usa live by usa's language and rules.
      don't get me wrong i have no problem with any other race or anything but stuff like this really bothers me.
      we don't go to other country's or other churchs and tell them when the can and can't fly their flag.
      just my two cents.

      ALSO KEEP THE FAMLIES OF THE FALLEN NEW YORK EMERGENCY SERVICE WORKERS IN YOUR THOUGHTS

      [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: LT-5-11-1 ]

      [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: LT-5-11-1 ]

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      • #4
        As I understand this particular incident, the "administration" ordered the removal because of a "planned" anti-war rally? For safety considerations? Just whose safety is in jeopardy - the firefighters with all those beautiful tools on board or the idiots expected to attempt to remove or otherwise defame the flag? It may be that the resulting injuries inflicted on any such protester(s) would send a seriously ugly message but it would definitely be a while before something like it happened again thats for sure!

        Good ol' Berkley again decides to refuse to support the righteous response to those who would deny us freedom. Let's close that so called institute of higher learning down and hang the faculty involved! Teaching our college students this dribble aught to be against the law and everyone involved aught to be sent to live in Afganistan or where ever the terrorists are found - before military action on the part of our government.... you know the government of the people for the people... since they obviously don't like the way we do things!

        I find them offensive - so maybe the Fire Dept. should refrain from emergency response on the campus? Kinda like our "African-American" brothers in Miami-Dade? Sorry but cannot begin to refrain from taking a pot shot at idiocy.

        In my book the word "American" is never hyphenated and when I see this it makes me want to tell the person who writes or speaks that drivel to kiss my entire rear end!

        And may God have pity on the next d*#n fool idiot who uses the term "politically correct" in my presence because they will find something very ugly in their face in extremely short order!


        [ 09-20-2001: Message edited by: FirescueBob ]
        Lets watch out for each other because no one else will! Be safe and sane! Opinions Expressed are Mine alone and do not reflect on any dept or organization to which I may belong.

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        • #5
          They're worried about an anti-war demonstration turning violent?

          Oh, that phrase is f*cked up on so many levels...
          IACOJ Canine Officer
          20/50

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          • #6


            And that's all I have to say about that!!

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            • #7
              I wonder if they would have the same anti-flag sentiment if Berkeley was a terrorist target on 11 September 2001?

              The same flag that the Firefighters of Berkeley were told to remove fron their rigs is the same flag that gives the protesters their first amendment rights to protest in the first place...ironic, isn't it?
              ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
              Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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              • #8
                Gee and to think, the congresswoman from the PRB (peoples republic of berkley), one Barbara Lee, is the only one to vote against military action to bring the terrorists that planned and paid for the hijackings to justice.

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                It's only my opinion. I do not speak for any group or organization I belong to or associate with or people I know - especially my employer. If you like it, we can share it, you don't have to give me credit. If you don't, we are allowed to disagree too (but be ready to be challenged, you may be on to something I'm not). That's what makes America great!

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                • #9
                  Our main streets are lined with 160 american flags that have been flying proud for the last week, just as they do on the 4th, flag day etc... And all of our apparatus have flags, police cars ye pyou guessed it flags flying, dpw trucks both local and state, flags again! If anybody were to question them I would be dumbfounded, and if it came from our firehouse we have serious grounds for a blanket party. We ought to strap these idiots ***e$ to the first bombs we send abroad. They don't deserve to work under the red white and blue.

                  God bless you brothers (and sisters), and horay for old glory too!


                  -Nick

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                  • #10


                    Is the Mayor of Berkley a Pakiestienian ??? He must be....The Flag flies proudly on the equipment at my station as at should on every piece in the nation....

                    I also herd mention of the Philadelphia Fire Commissioner say NO to Black Bunting on PFD Stations....Is this true ???? I would certianly hope not
                    ***The Opinions expressed here are strictly my own and do not reflect those of the Department to which I am a Member ! ***

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                    • #11
                      The mayor of Berserkeley is not the problem, she and the firefighters are ****ed off about this too, it's the fire chief's decision!
                      Living the dream...

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                      • #12
                        So get us the Berkley Fire/public safties phone number and fax.A little MD treatment from us caring individuals should clear up this cloudy area for them.PTB-FTM. T.C.

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                        • #13
                          I'm not sorry, if you don't like this country or what it stands for get the f**k out. Blacks find the american flag offensive too bad. Chinese too bad. Russian too bad. I'm by no means racist I just hate *******s. No body forces you to live here, as a matter of fact the only three things you are required to do in this country is be born, pay taxes and die. How many of our fathers and grandfathers, brothers and mothers have died defending this freedom that these ingrates that for granite. Go to Afghan and live with them, and when we're bombing the hell out of them you'll be waving the american flag please don't hurt my ungratful ***. Yeah remember that the next time you wake up to a cup of coffee that so many other countries would love to have that luxury. Oh that's right you can walk down an american street in saftey because of the sacrifices made before you and not have to worry about a constant battle ground.
                          the truth never hides for long

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                          • #14
                            So get us the Berkley Fire/public safties phone number and fax.

                            Well just duh, why didn't I think of that...

                            Here you go!

                            Berkely CA Fire Dept.
                            Fire Chief Reginald Garcia
                            510-981-3473
                            [email protected]
                            It's only my opinion. I do not speak for any group or organization I belong to or associate with or people I know - especially my employer. If you like it, we can share it, you don't have to give me credit. If you don't, we are allowed to disagree too (but be ready to be challenged, you may be on to something I'm not). That's what makes America great!

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                            • #15
                              To hell with the protestors! Reading that story angers me to no end. I have lost relatives in every war that this country has fought! While some of those anti-america bastards were crying about vietnam, my father volunteered for the United States Marines! Give me a break! If you can put up with having thousands of you fellow countrymen killed, then you deserve to be attacked by terrorists. But then again what can one expect from a city that wanted to legalize "hard" drugs! If the traitors (forgive spelling) want to attack a fire apparatus for displaying the flag, use the deluge on them (preferred use is very high pressure). I hate to say it but prehaps McCarthy was right. Get these people out of here. Remember that wishing for peace is the surest way to encourage an agressor!
                              Firefighter/NREMT-B/Hazmat Tech
                              To the Lord Jesus Christ: Thanks for providing a career where we can make a difference.

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