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  • FireEMSPolice
    started a topic US helmets vs European helmets

    US helmets vs European helmets

    Anyone know if the European-style helmets are on their way to being NFPA compliant? I was recently at a manufacturers open house and MSA had one on display. I tried it on and loved it over my current helmet (Fire Dex 1910). Before that I had a Cairns 1010 helmet that I loved and was comfy. But Neither of them stays on my head as comfortably as this Euro style. The rep told me he believed they would soon be NFPA compliant. Anyone know?

  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by Too_Old View Post

    No different from the Metro style combat Tupperware. Most departments just put a big decal on the shell itself.
    Actually you can get a Unit identifier shield for a 660 style helmet. We had Leather fronts on ours when I was a CFR firefighter. They attached with Velcro.

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  • Lukas
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    You can also choose the color of the shell and get a custom front plate.
    Some FD use the color of the shells to identify the rank and function of the personnel. Orange for the troops, yellow for the sub-officers, white for the officers, green for the medical personnel etc...

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  • tree68
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    Duplicate Post.

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  • Too_Old
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    Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
    One thing about both, is there is no shield to identify your agency.
    No different from the Metro style combat Tupperware. Most departments just put a big decal on the shell itself.

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  • Lukas
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    The F1 series has been the standard in my country for 30 years. I've been wearing the F1SF long enough to love it and I can't wait for my FD to receive the XF1 (overhere it's called the F1XF, with a few variations such as heat deflecting visor and neck curtain).

    I by no mean want to "convince" anyone, I think you're capable of assessing what's the best for you. But objectively the XF1 offers the best protection you can think of.

    In my FD we also use an alternate helmet, which is the F2 : it's much much lighter, it's dedicated to forest fires and rescue missions.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by Lukas View Post
    MSA - Cairns' just released the XF1 helmet, fully compliant with the US regulations. It's the state of the art in term of fire helmets.
    Who cares? Buy one if you want to. You'll never convince me in the short time I have left to want one.

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  • Lukas
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    MSA - Cairns' just released the XF1 helmet, fully compliant with the US regulations. It's the state of the art in term of fire helmets.
    Last edited by Lukas; 11-05-2018, 12:51 PM.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post

    If I was wearing that fugly POS I woudn't want my agency to be identified.
    Now Randy be gentle or you will drive this young lad to a safe space and much needed self esteem recovery time.

    Helmet diversity must be allowed...no matter how much others may agree with you.

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  • FWDbuff
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    Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
    One thing about both, is there is no shield to identify your agency.
    If I was wearing that fugly POS I woudn't want my agency to be identified.

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  • FyredUp
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    Wear it in good health and safety.

    As for me...I'll stay with my traditional helmet.

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  • FireEMSPolice
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    MSA just released the Cairns XF1. Like the Rosenbauers, pricing is comparable to the cost of the traditional style. One thing about both, is there is no shield to identify your agency.

    http://us.msasafety.com/xf1firehelmets?locale=EN
    Last edited by FireEMSPolice; 09-26-2018, 12:25 PM.

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  • RFDACM02
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    I'm pretty sure there has been some Euro style helmets that were NFPA compliant in the past. Look up Gallet? One of our mutual aid FD's got a truckload and outfitted their personnel. Was the funniest thing ever to see them rolling in for the first time. From my third floor window it looked like the crew from Spaceballs were heading in.

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  • johnsb
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    I don't know how well those visors would work in cold weather, seems like they'd fog up in a second. And I don't think they protect very well on the sides from water coming down over the collar. I wonder how they fit over a mask, not that I really want one...

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  • Too_Old
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    Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
    MSA is the ones who piqued my interest. They are the ones who were not sure so I asked here.

    This is the only NFPA certified Euro-style helmet I have seen. That looks awesome!

    https://www.rosenbauer.com/en/svc/ro...ghting-helmets

    No accounting for taste I guess.




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    ​​​​​​Add some goggles and you can ride moto-cross.

    I'll give you that they probably provide superior protection. But yuck, IMHO they are ugly as ****.

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