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    Anyone know if the European-style helmets are on their way to being NFPA compliant? I was recently at a manufacturers open house and MSA had one on display. I tried it on and loved it over my current helmet (Fire Dex 1910). Before that I had a Cairns 1010 helmet that I loved and was comfy. But Neither of them stays on my head as comfortably as this Euro style. The rep told me he believed they would soon be NFPA compliant. Anyone know?

  • #2
    Nobody know anything?

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    • #3
      I believe that until they can show an NFPA compliance label affixed to the helmet you should keep your money in your wallet. Because what the salesman believes until then don't mean squat.

      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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      • #4
        That does not answer the question though. Does anyone know if this is in the works?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
          That does not answer the question though. Does anyone know if this is in the works?
          Why not ask MSA?
          Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

          Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
            That does not answer the question though. Does anyone know if this is in the works?
            I think it answers the question entirely. If the helmet doesn't have an NFPA compliance sticker attached to it what the salesman says doesn't mean Jack Squat.

            Contact the manufacturer of the Duck Dodgers of the 25th and 1/2 Century Space helmet you want to buy and ask them if it is NFPA compliant or what the progress is on getting compliance. And after that don't buy it until it has an NFPA compliance sticker attached to it.
            Crazy, but that's how it goes
            Millions of people living as foes
            Maybe it's not too late
            To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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            • #7
              I'm sure they will be compliant soon. However the definition of soon depends on who you ask.

              In the next 50 years, they will be compliant. It might take 50 years, but that can be seen as soon.

              Until it has the sticker, or you read something official form an NFPA source, it isn't compliant, regardless of what a salesman says (whose sole purpose is to sell you the product, so don't believe anything he says about what another agency will be doing "soon')

              Being almost compliant, soon to be compliant, or in the works is still not compliant. It's like being pregnant; you either are, or you aren't. there is no in-between. Compliance is the same thing: your items are either compliant, or they aren't. there is no middle ground, despite what the salesman wants you to think.
              If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

              FF/EMT/DBP

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              • #8
                MSA is the ones who piqued my interest. They are the ones who were not sure so I asked here.

                This is the only NFPA certified Euro-style helmet I have seen. That looks awesome!

                https://www.rosenbauer.com/en/svc/ro...ghting-helmets

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
                  MSA is the ones who piqued my interest. They are the ones who were not sure so I asked here.

                  This is the only NFPA certified Euro-style helmet I have seen. That looks awesome!

                  https://www.rosenbauer.com/en/svc/ro...ghting-helmets

                  No accounting for taste I guess.




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                  ​​​​​​Add some goggles and you can ride moto-cross.

                  I'll give you that they probably provide superior protection. But yuck, IMHO they are ugly as ****.

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                  • #10
                    I don't know how well those visors would work in cold weather, seems like they'd fog up in a second. And I don't think they protect very well on the sides from water coming down over the collar. I wonder how they fit over a mask, not that I really want one...

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                    • #11
                      I'm pretty sure there has been some Euro style helmets that were NFPA compliant in the past. Look up Gallet? One of our mutual aid FD's got a truckload and outfitted their personnel. Was the funniest thing ever to see them rolling in for the first time. From my third floor window it looked like the crew from Spaceballs were heading in.

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                      • #12
                        MSA just released the Cairns XF1. Like the Rosenbauers, pricing is comparable to the cost of the traditional style. One thing about both, is there is no shield to identify your agency.

                        http://us.msasafety.com/xf1firehelmets?locale=EN
                        Last edited by FireEMSPolice; 09-26-2018, 12:25 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Wear it in good health and safety.

                          As for me...I'll stay with my traditional helmet.
                          Crazy, but that's how it goes
                          Millions of people living as foes
                          Maybe it's not too late
                          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FireEMSPolice View Post
                            One thing about both, is there is no shield to identify your agency.
                            If I was wearing that fugly POS I woudn't want my agency to be identified.

                            "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post

                              If I was wearing that fugly POS I woudn't want my agency to be identified.
                              Now Randy be gentle or you will drive this young lad to a safe space and much needed self esteem recovery time.

                              Helmet diversity must be allowed...no matter how much others may agree with you.
                              Crazy, but that's how it goes
                              Millions of people living as foes
                              Maybe it's not too late
                              To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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