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  • Training in a complacent department

    I am on a very small combination department were most people are old and not as active and don't seem to care anymore. I try to set up training but nobody is interested and I am told nothing happens in the town so don't worry about it. I am currently a volunteer in the town but am trying to get on a career department and would like to keep my skills up so what are some drills I can do one my own?

  • #2
    Originally posted by fire5555
    find a couple of people that do care and just train with them
    The problem is there are none unfortunately

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    • #3
      Alas, it's a common tale.

      You're faced with a double curse - low call volume and a crew that figures they've seen all there is to see.

      First step is to see if you can get the leadership behind you.

      Spend time on the various fire-related sites. See what the trends are (have you seen the new composite/I-beam 2x4's?). Tease them with printouts of on-line articles, especially those that relate to your coverage area. Initiate some "kitchen table" chat on them. Try to get an outside expert or two to give presentations.

      Also consider statutory requirements, like the "OSHA 8 Hour Refresher." Your OSHA inspector will love you if you can't show it happened. I put together a training day with a variety of speakers. It's open to all fire departments and is generally well attended. Several other departments in the county do the same thing.

      Speaking of other departments - try to get them involved. Nothing like some joint training.

      Obtain the IFSTA company drills book - plenty of short, simple exercises. Similar drills are available on other sites (Firehouse, Firefighter Close Calls, etc) as well.

      If you operate extrication tools, check out the University of Extrication and the timed drill ("Phases") therein. Get some cars and get some good natured competition going.

      Air consumption drills - play basketball or dodgeball in the truck bays. On air.
      Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

      Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tree68 View Post
        Alas, it's a common tale.

        You're faced with a double curse - low call volume and a crew that figures they've seen all there is to see.

        First step is to see if you can get the leadership behind you.

        Spend time on the various fire-related sites. See what the trends are (have you seen the new composite/I-beam 2x4's?). Tease them with printouts of on-line articles, especially those that relate to your coverage area. Initiate some "kitchen table" chat on them. Try to get an outside expert or two to give presentations.

        Also consider statutory requirements, like the "OSHA 8 Hour Refresher." Your OSHA inspector will love you if you can't show it happened. I put together a training day with a variety of speakers. It's open to all fire departments and is generally well attended. Several other departments in the county do the same thing.

        Speaking of other departments - try to get them involved. Nothing like some joint training.

        Obtain the IFSTA company drills book - plenty of short, simple exercises. Similar drills are available on other sites (Firehouse, Firefighter Close Calls, etc) as well.

        If you operate extrication tools, check out the University of Extrication and the timed drill ("Phases") therein. Get some cars and get some good natured competition going.

        Air consumption drills - play basketball or dodgeball in the truck bays. On air.
        I've tried to get drills set up and I have set some up myself and still nobody shows up. When I do try to bring up new methods or just try to initiate talk about the fire service I'm told to not worry about it and there is no point in trying to care about that stuff all they want to talk about is what new fd shirt they got and lights they put on their car. I am stuck in a department that just wants to play firefighter and are scared when it comes time to actually do something. It has come to the point that I do not even want to respond to the few calls we are allowed to run because I do not feel safe on a scene with them

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        • #5
          If there are any benefits you can get (training hours, references, certifications they will pay for you to get), then use them for what they are worth. You can use them as a reference when applying for a career department; if they are looking for people with prior experience.

          If this department is solely a surround and drown, then it's not as dangerous as it sounds. If interior operations are expected outa them, someone is going to get hurt. If there is no reward, then there should be no risk?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tree68 View Post
            Alas, it's a common tale.

            Spend time on the various fire-related sites

            Speaking of other departments - try to get them involved. Nothing like some joint training.

            .

            I'm going to second what Tree wrote. There are plenty of websites to get training drills from - both FireEngineering.com and Firehouse.com have a drill of the week where you can get ideas from. Also, call up your AMA (or closest) fire department and set up a mutual drill night. It could be as simple as going over each other's rigs so you know what equipment they carry.

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            • #7
              Do whatever you can to get trained yourself. Go to outside classes, even if your FD won't pay for them. recruit others to train with you, even if the majority won't. The laziness or apathy of others does not have to become who you are.
              Crazy, but that's how it goes
              Millions of people living as foes
              Maybe it's not too late
              To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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