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  • Estwing REXIT

    I saw this tool at FDIC this year and contacted the company about getting one to try. The inventor and 2 Estwing company officials brought my FD 2 of them to play with. I like it. It has the ability to be used as a battering ram to blast open doors or like a super Halligan. We shocked the door, got a gap and then used the adze end to pop the door. It is a bit heavier than we are used to in forcible entry tools at 19 pounds, but with our shop door prop we found you can blast open a door pretty quickly and efficiently with it.

    Here's a video on it: http://www.estwing.com/video/rexit.html
    Crazy, but that's how it goes
    Millions of people living as foes
    Maybe it's not too late
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  • #2
    In a former life I was a big fan of Estwing hammers. This looks interesting, but maybe a variation of an already proven and likely better tool the Pro-Bar halligan. I'd think the heavy end would be good for the few times we'd need to use it as a ram, and too much for the majority of the time we're lugging it around or using it to aid search. Other than the battering tool part, it doesn't offer anything new, yet does lose the pike and some of the finer points of a properly prepared halligan.

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    • #3
      It is not really meant to be a Halligan replacement. We have utilized it over 3 days of training on our homemade door prop simulating breaking through multiple locks using up to 4 - 1/2 inch dowels and it makes quick work of that. Yes it is heavy, but that is an advantage in some cases. Frankly I would not lug it through a building, unless it was an industrial building with steel doors in steel frames. I think a couple of swings with this would absolutely destroy the edge of the door and make for rapid forcing.

      I have no financial investment in the company or the tool, I just thought it was an interesting additional tool for some cases. I plan to ad it to our RIT tool cache.
      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RFDACM02 View Post
        In a former life I was a big fan of Estwing hammers. This looks interesting, but maybe a variation of an already proven and likely better tool the Pro-Bar halligan. I'd think the heavy end would be good for the few times we'd need to use it as a ram, and too much for the majority of the time we're lugging it around or using it to aid search. Other than the battering tool part, it doesn't offer anything new, yet does lose the pike and some of the finer points of a properly prepared halligan.
        I'm in your camp. Too heavy to lug through multiple dwellings and too heavy to keep during search. I don't generally like the "battering ram" function for FD use. We lose door control and any occupant lying just inside the door gets walloped.

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        • #5
          if you strap the door knob you can maintain door control. Truth be told there are sometimes uncontrolled openings when using conventional forcible entry too.

          I agree on the weight and not carrying it throughout the building while searching.
          Crazy, but that's how it goes
          Millions of people living as foes
          Maybe it's not too late
          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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          • #6
            Fair enough on the strap. But the battering ram type forcing is more explosive than conventional normally is.

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            • #7
              Couldn't find much of anything about it - particularly price.

              If it's anything like some tools I've seen, the fire price will be about double the civilian price.
              Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by captnjak View Post
                Fair enough on the strap. But the battering ram type forcing is more explosive than conventional normally is.
                I can't disagree with you on that.
                Crazy, but that's how it goes
                Millions of people living as foes
                Maybe it's not too late
                To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by tree68 View Post
                  Couldn't find much of anything about it - particularly price.

                  If it's anything like some tools I've seen, the fire price will be about double the civilian price.
                  List is $350.
                  Crazy, but that's how it goes
                  Millions of people living as foes
                  Maybe it's not too late
                  To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post

                    I have no financial investment in the company or the tool, I just thought it was an interesting additional tool for some cases. I plan to ad it to our RIT tool cache.
                    I certainly wasn't trying to get any digs in, I agree that the more tools in the box the better as long as everyone understands their uses and limitations. It's great when a company can let the FD demo tools repeatedly to allow a real test of their capabilities and possible limitations. And I appreciate that you posted this as again, we don;'t know what we don't know.

                    In all I think it makes a lot more sense for the PD. Our PD came to us two years ago for help with FE and at the time we arranged for them to get Pro-bars but alas, this may have been a better fit for their needs as they like the speed and affect of the battering ram and weren't as interested in two man FE evolutions.

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                    • #11
                      I do like the fact that it looks like a great tool for breaching block walls. Definitely not a standard every day tool on every fire, but I can DEFINITELY see having one on at least every Rescue (NO, not an Ambulance...) or ladder truck, if not the engine as well. It would be great to have for RIT as well. I'd rather have this than a Denver tool.

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                      • #12
                        Got to check one out last weekend when visiting friends in Illinois. Way too heavy. Thanks but no thanks.
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                        • #13
                          It is heavy, but it has an intended purpose, like a battering ram. It is not meant to replace the Halligan or axe, but to be used as a specialty tool. Like I said I plan to try to get the chief to buy a couple for our RIT team tool cache.

                          Honestly I just thought I would show you guys this tool. It is obviously your choice to take it or leave it.
                          Crazy, but that's how it goes
                          Millions of people living as foes
                          Maybe it's not too late
                          To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
                            It is heavy, but it has an intended purpose, like a battering ram.
                            If I want a 12lb sledge I can get one from the compartment......I don't need to pay $350 for another one.
                            "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by FWDbuff View Post

                              If I want a 12lb sledge I can get one from the compartment......I don't need to pay $350 for another one.
                              Well first off it's 19 lbs, not 12, and you can't pry with a sledge... not to mention it's dynamics are quite different from a sledge. You're comparing apples and oranges.

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