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  • Using the word firefighter in your hobby job business name

    Curious about how you all feel about brothers and sisters using "firefighter" as part of their hobby job business name?

    There's a few guys on i work with at both the career and POC fire departments that have "firefighter handyman," "firemen movers" or "the fix it firefighter" as their business names.

    Understanding that the word firefighter creates a sense of trust and security, but I don't feel it's okay to use that word unless you get approval from the chief/union head. The fact that they id themselves as firefighters' only makes them more susceptible to getting the fire department or the fire service in a negative light should there be a bad business deal and review.

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    Wow - mixed feelings on this.

    College kids often do essentially the same thing, but I see that as much more generic.

    If the business has nothing to do with firefighting, I'd suggest against it - ie, "firefighter carpentry" probably isn't a good idea. If they're selling fire gear, maybe it's OK.

    Another angle to consider is the rising tide of negative feelings about firefighters even having hobby businesses/jobs. If a city government is looking for ways to rake the fire department over the coals, why help them by advertising that you're using your luxurious time off from your cushy sleep-at-work job (their characterization, not mine) to make more money? "Pete's Plumbing" doesn't call attention to that. "Fireman Pete's Plumbing" does.
    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

    Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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    • #3
      We did talk about the view of people believing the 24/48 schedule gives us the 'freedom' to work other jobs unlike the taxpayers.

      The town where I'm POC is still on old school community where everyone knows everyone and it's probably not as negative because we're paid a very nominal stipend, but in my county I do worry about the stigma of 24/28 and being able to 'catch up' at the station.

      Does your fire dept prohibit hobby job work while on duty?

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      • #4
        WTH cares as long as the name of the community isn't attached to the name of the business
        "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TwoHatter1349 View Post
          Does your fire dept prohibit hobby job work while on duty?
          I'm a vollie, so the question doesn't apply here.

          I would opine that most places would prohibit hobby job work while on duty. It wouldn't do to have someone leave a roofing job to respond on a call - especially if they were getting paid to be on duty at the same time.

          OTOH, many career departments let their employees have "down time" for nights, etc. In that respect, I can't say as I'd complain about someone doing email at the firehouse or other such activities that didn't detract from their ability to respond.
          Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

          Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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          • #6
            My dep't. considers it unethical to use your position for monetary gain in any way (aside from the actual salary).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by captnjak View Post
              My dep't. considers it unethical to use your position for monetary gain in any way (aside from the actual salary).
              Ditto, our City policy manual ensures that no one can use their position for personal gain. From a purely personal standpoint I'd say I'm probably more against it than for it. At issues is that we cannot regulate who uses the term, thus when Firefighter Handyman turns out to be bilking old ladies, it tarnishes the job. As noted above if the work is directly related to firefighting (selling fire equipment) then I could see that differently.

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              • #8
                RFDACM02-can you share the text or verbatim of what the city policy says. I would like to talk with our Union about this. We have been burned in the past which is why I am asking as a few younger guys are tossing business names around at the table.

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                • #9
                  Well, I thought it said this explicitly, but the final print copy seems to be a bit toned down from the original draft. Early drafts stated that no employee should use their employment with the City in a manner is which to obtain other work, pay, favors or gifts. Here's the new and fuzzier version:

                  "Conflict Of Interest
                  A conflict of interest may occur when an employee places his/her own personal interests before
                  the interests of the City and those it serves. Because a conflict of interest is such a serious
                  matter, it is each employee?s responsibility to avoid placing him/herself in a position that creates
                  a conflict, or even the appearance of a conflict of interest. Should a question arise regarding a
                  potential conflict of interest, the City Manager must be consulted immediately."


                  I'm not sure you could stretch the conflict of interest by using Firefighter Handyman or any other work that wasn't offered by the city.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by RFDACM02 View Post

                    Ditto, our City policy manual ensures that no one can use their position for personal gain. From a purely personal standpoint I'd say I'm probably more against it than for it. At issues is that we cannot regulate who uses the term, thus when Firefighter Handyman turns out to be bilking old ladies, it tarnishes the job. As noted above if the work is directly related to firefighting (selling fire equipment) then I could see that differently.
                    Something related to firefighting is considered especially bad because your position could impact decision making on part of buyer. It could look as if the department also endorses whatever brand you're selling.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by captnjak View Post

                      Something related to firefighting is considered especially bad because your position could impact decision making on part of buyer. It could look as if the department also endorses whatever brand you're selling.
                      Agreed, I was thinking more of someone who was a FF and then sold fire equipment to FD's, such as apparatus sales, turnouts, etc. "Firematic Supply" for example. I agree with not using the term to influence the sale of products or goods to the general public who equate the term with trustworthiness.

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