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  • E229Lt
    started a topic Hey, anyone still here?

    Hey, anyone still here?

    I took a long break from these forums. Are any Crustys still here?

  • batchief99
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    I just was wandering through, it's been a long time. Holy cats, I only joined 12 years ago? Seemed longer.

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  • drparasite
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    Haven't been here in years.... life gets in the way, new job, family requirements, but there were always a few people that were great sources of information, and others who were just plain entertaining.

    Once I get FH to fix my forum name issues (apparently my forum account and my firehouse account aren't linked, again, resulting in issues), maybe I will be back more.

    Definately good to see some familiar names from when I first started posting here 15 or so years ago.

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  • CaptOldTimer
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    I've not been in as much as I have but check by occasionally.

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post

    I always find what you say quite amusing. It does make me chuckle.
    Your comments make me laugh out loud.

    We both know its true.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post

    I always find what you say quite amusing. It does make me chuckle.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWINtUCshxY

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post

    I'm retired. I have no doubt I fought more fire than you saw on TV. If you had worked for me, you wouldn't have worked for me.

    My crews looked for ways to do the job, not avoid it.
    I always find what you say quite amusing. It does make me chuckle.

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    When you have little interesting to say in the present, often all you have is the past.
    I'm retired. I have no doubt I fought more fire than you saw on TV. If you had worked for me, you wouldn't have worked for me.

    My crews looked for ways to do the job, not avoid it.

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  • LaFireEducator
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    When you have little interesting to say in the present, often all you have is the past.

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  • FyredUp
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    SCFire, the broken record old man who has no recent interesting things to discuss goes back to the days of the dinosaurs to drag up long dead schitt to make himself sound cool. YAWN...

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
    Once again you miss the point. The point is that you claim to bear the mantle of being a fire department or firefighter whose task is protecting the public. Be honest with the citizens you claim to serve who might believe that you are there protecting them.

    You repeatedly stated that you wouldn't even attempt to save someone from a burning vehicle if you were off duty. Something many of us have done without our safety gear available.

    Just don't make the claim that your ideas of firefighting should be the norm. Yes you have an obligation to ensure your crew's safety. But your statements are one of being over cautious to the point of being ineffective. I worked for three decades as a company officer. Rarely did I have all the proper resources and manpower that you demand be in place to mount a proper attack that would be considered a textbook operation.
    I'm not going to relive the past.

    My primary job is to get my crew home and that will drive my decision-making process. At the end of the day, the reality is that for most fire departments fires where civilian life is at stake is a very, very, very rare event. In fact, in 37 years, I can say that only twice have I encountered that situation, and only once was it as an officer faced with making that decision. Not once was it at an abandoned or vacant structure.

    How you ran your company is your business. And when I'm in charge of a company or a scene, that's my business. And rarely do I have all the resources that I would like as well. That being said, When there has been a situation where there has been a reasonable chance of changing the outcome, I have taken risks that were commensurate with the potential gains.

    I will not relitigate the "vehicle fire discussion", except to say that when off-duty and without the workman comp protections associated with an on-duty response, it is up to each man to make a decision as to whether it's prudent to act and risk the safety of his family.
    Last edited by LaFireEducator; 10-10-2016, 04:39 PM.

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post

    Exactly, and in none of the areas in which I have worked or volunteered, had squatting in abandoned or vacant buildings been an issue, so there was no need to put members at risk, which was my point years ago when this was a heated discussion.

    Like you, I would likely handle the same discussion with the fools on this site differently now.
    Once again you miss the point. The point is that you claim to bear the mantle of being a fire department or firefighter whose task is protecting the public. Be honest with the citizens you claim to serve who might believe that you are there protecting them.

    You repeatedly stated that you wouldn't even attempt to save someone from a burning vehicle if you were off duty. Something many of us have done without our safety gear available.

    Just don't make the claim that your ideas of firefighting should be the norm. Yes you have an obligation to ensure your crew's safety. But your statements are one of being over cautious to the point of being ineffective. I worked for three decades as a company officer. Rarely did I have all the proper resources and manpower that you demand be in place to mount a proper attack that would be considered a textbook operation.

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  • slackjawedyokel
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    fools ? finally take some testosterone shots buddy? good for you -maybe you can finally grow you a pair.

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    I'm not going to battle again on that point. But I will say knowing your area plays a part. My bet is the probability of squatters in an urban area or an economically down turned area is higher than in rural or more economically well off areas.
    Exactly, and in none of the areas in which I have worked or volunteered, had squatting in abandoned or vacant buildings been an issue, so there was no need to put members at risk, which was my point years ago when this was a heated discussion.

    Like you, I would likely handle the same discussion with the fools on this site differently now.

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  • FyredUp
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    I'm not going to battle again on that point. But I will say knowing your area plays a part. My bet is the probability of squatters in an urban area or an economically down turned area is higher than in rural or more economically well off areas.

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