has anybody ever really read some of the NFPA recommendations? did you notice that they contradict themselves. take 1710 & 1720 it was a good effort but it's not going to work. What we need to do as departments is educate the right people in government about what we need and why we need it instead of just asking for it, and taking no for an answer. The cops did it and look they get everything they ask for know. The fire act is a good start but instead of 100,000,000. we asked for over a billion which shows just how bad we need help and that if we get the money needed we will save more lives "like our own" and the citizens we protect. to sum it up to many stupid people in all the wrong places.

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