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  • rescue2bob
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    Well I expect to hear some [email protected]@t on this but, parades and wet downs are just enother excuse for a bunch of free beer happy yahoos to get all fired up, this crap about unity and social good will is just the curtian used to cover up a disgrace to the fire service. Just what the community needs to see, all the rigs form the surrounding area covered with a bunch of so called fireman yapping and hooting and cursing and exhibting unexceptable behavior all under the heading of a "WETDOWN" or a "PARADE". What a disgrace. Not everyone that goes and participates in these events doesn't do this but you all know that it happens.

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  • boncrechief@yahoo.com
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    We attend one parade per year that is almost a political neccessity. Fortunately for us the parade route is only two miles from one of our stations. We use our oldest truck and have enough remaining engines to cover "normal" calls. The only other time an engine is out of the district is for mutual aid calls. The Board of Directors because of liability reasons enacted this policy years before I became chief.

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  • toneloc177
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    Lt. Snyder, what about when your company or dept. had an instillation dinner, or some other type dinner, where you know damn well, guys are getting liquored up. don't you have stand by crews from another area, standby for your town/ response area? or if your comp. / dept. is hosting a big parade . . . same thing, standby crews?

    (#1 - i'm not bashing you, and #2 my chiefs have shown why it takes an active, and aggressive company to run my dept.



    THREE TIMES, AND IT STILL WON'T EDIT RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!

    [ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: toneloc177 ]

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  • trumpeter75
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    In my department we usually dump all three of our stations for the majority of our parades. However, these units are NEVER out of service during this time, and respond to alarms directly from the parade route. It's not common, but has occasionally happened.

    I've never heard of any "wet downs" in my area.

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  • Turk II
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    Personally I think that some people are making a mountain out of a mole hill on this issue... Especially in a volunteer department, parades and department functions are vital and very important to the overall moral of the group.

    My town has three all volunteer departments. Each department is about 2 or 3 miles from the other. If one department is running an open house for public relations, a parade, or something of that nature then one of the other two departments can cover the district.

    - Turk II

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  • axeyaz
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    Hey Snyder, stop beating around the bush and tell us how you really feel.

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  • Captain 12
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    firman phil

    that's OK it's what I would call,,, A good will call just like a cat in a tree...

    and we call, changing light bulbs on the town x-mass tree a High elevation electrial hazard drill... Pump out the country club pool??? that would be yearly pump test, requierd by NFPA...and if you use hose that NFPA 1962 for hose testing...

    Just remember when it's hot outside the firefighter's get then PT in the country club pool... and that a water rescue drill

    It might be BS but you can learn at the same time... also try some probies up the ladder.

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  • sponge
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    Back east, where we had parades, we'd normally take a few pieces and leave the rest with standby crews. Occassionally we'd take most or all of the trucks, or not have enough people left in town to man the remaining trucks. In that case, we would have a few companies from other towns come in and standby for us. We'd do the same thing if we had a department function (like the dept dinner or something).
    There would always be sufficient manpower and equipment to cover the town.

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  • fireman phil
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    Forget about taking apparatus out of service for parades and wetdowns.... What about useing the departments arial to change light bulbs at the city ball field or using a pumper to fill the country club swimming pool. The worst part is that these request come down from the city adminstration in city hall.

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  • Bob Snyder
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    >> hey sny, ever hear of standby's?

    Yup. Absolutely necessary tool used to spread remaining coverage when apparatus is committed on an emergency incident, or in the event of a death in the "family" (I hate to be so blunt, but there you go). Using them to cover so that you can take an entire department fleet to a party somewhere out of range of your area is an abuse of this.

    >> I don't think that in todays day and age w/ lawsuits, allstate ittis', and in$urance rate$, that a chief / department would be stupid enough to strip their entire fleet for fun and games.

    You'd think that you'd be right about this. Sadly, you're wrong...they're oput there, and one will reply to this sooner or later, telling us how it "builds morale", "fosters pride", it's a "long-standing tradition", or some such rationalization.

    >> They should (HOPEFULLY) be leaving back a crew, or enough guys

    Yes, they should.


    People wonder why we have image problems in the volly service...here's a reason, right in front of our eyes.

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  • j6200
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    Ya...I've seen entire fleets at a wetdown. Not that safe if you ask me. One should be enough. We have lots of wetdowns by me, and every department does it's own thing.

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  • Dickey
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    We only allow Fire Dept. vehicles in parades if it is in our city or next to our city. If the parade is in our city, since it is fairly small, any and all vehicles can be included. If it is outside, only one or two vehicles can participate. One exception is an engine and our brush rig(2 newest vehilces) are allowed once a year to a town to the east, Wisconsin Rapids, WI (about an hour away) for their annual Silent Night Parade for fallen firefighters. We operate out of one station with 3 engines so we can spare one. If we need one or more, there is always mutual aid.

    We also have a 1928 Model A Ford fire truck that is used for parades all over and that can go as far as the members want to take it.

    As far as a "wet down", I have seen this done but never knew what it was called. We do not do this. Our last new engine the Chief got to back it into the station.(he's a little rusty) We had a little show and tell with refreshments and members of other depts and the public came to see the new "toy".

    Take care and keep your powder dry
    _________________
    Lt.Jason Knecht
    Altoona Fire Rescue
    Altoona, WI

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  • DON DELANCEY
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    We put the entire fleet( 3pumps, 1 ladder, 1 rescue, 1 tanker, 1 support vehicle and rescue boat, and a snow machine!) in the parade in our city but the rigs are never out of service. We have never attended a parade in another town. Why not? Don't know , never been asked to I guess. We don't have wetdowns up here in the great white north but in our dept. we have a "probie party". When the rookies have gone through there 8weeks of training we have a party and a hose coupling contest. Thats the contest where the vets get to show the probies how to hook up and flow the wet stuff! We usually kick their butts

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  • Captain 12
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    to GO4IT

    A Wet down...

    It's what they do up north east mostly. But some Fire Dept's outside them damm Yankee's do it Too.

    When you get a new fire truck, you have a party and invite other fire dept's over to see your new TOY, Then somebody gets a hose and starts shotting water, and the water fight starts. Good Clean Fun. till somebody gets hurt and they do...

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  • toneloc177
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    hey sny, ever hear of standby's? I don't think that in todays day and age w/ lawsuits, allstate ittis', and in$urance rate$, that a chief / department would be stupid enough to strip their entire fleet for fun and games. They should (HOPEFULLY) be leaving back a crew, or enough guys, or even have another department standby for them while they have their fun and games.

    In my area, it's more of a 'invite only' thing. If your (company / dept.) invited, you go, or don't go, whatever. There is no standard.

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