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  • True Attack Piece,how many lines?

    Looking for some ideas to spec into our next engine(attack truck), mainly how many pre-connects and what size other than the standard 1.75 lines we all have. All your input is welcome!!!!!!!
    Firefighter/CCEMT-P
    May we ride into the darkness only to return as safe as we started!!

  • #2
    On our Attack truck we have four lines. Two 1 inch and 3/4 lines which can be either CAFS(Compressed Air Foam) or straight water. We also have two 3 inch that have the same capabilities of the 1 inch and 3/4 lines.All of the lines are 250 feet in length.And finally we have a deck gun. I will try and get a picture of the truck and send it to you because it is a very unique truck and is one of a kind. Just email me and I will then contact you.

    [ 07-10-2001: Message edited by: Jay19fire ]
    -JaY-

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    • #3
      Our new engine that just came is has 4 Pre-connects, 1- 2 1/2 Blitz line, 2- 1 3/4 attack line, those 3 are CAF capable. There is also a 1 3/4 trash line in the front bumper. We plan on supplying our portable deck gun with 5". Our ladder is the same, except 3" for the deck gun.
      Norwood Fire Co. No. 1
      http://www.nfco1.freeservers.com

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      • #4
        1- 1 1/2" x 100' trash line off front bumper
        1- 1 3/4" x 200' speedlay
        2- 1 3/4" x 150' speedlay
        1- 1 3/4" x 300' crosslay
        1- 2 1/2" x 200' crosslay
        1- 2 1/2" x 300' w/ gated wye w/ 1 1/2" x
        150" off the back


        Its alot of hose, but it gives you many different choices with quick deployment.

        [ 07-09-2001: Message edited by: newasstchief ]
        Just my 2 cents....3 before taxes

        Fir Na Tine

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        • #5
          Personal Random Thoughts...

          -- Have a "big booster" of either Niedner Reeltex (http://www.niedner.com/reeltex2.html) which is excellent for CAFS, or by using 1.5" double jacketed hose kept charged at 50psi when rewound on the reel. 200' is nice, as it allows good reach for small brush fires.

          Excellent as a utility line for brush & trash fires; car fires; using with specialty applicators like piercing nozzles. Depending on nozzle & configuration, flows 65-125gpm. (Make sure reel is plumbed to support these volumes!)

          Because it's on a reel, pull 50' if you need it. Pull 75' if you need it. Pull 80', start the knock down, and pull more off as you advance to overhaul. Makes for a quick attack, and easy pickup.

          -- Have a good mix of 1.75" and/or 2" lines for your area -- 150', 200', and 400' are common.

          -- Keep some of your handlines in "stairpacks" or "Hi-rise packs" that can be used to extend a line, used off a standpipe, or hooked up to the pump as another attack line.

          -- Have a bomb line like 300' of 2.5 or 3" with a master stream device.

          -- Look at your local needs and operations. We use 2.5" as our one big handline. For an attack, 2" would meet our flows, but we have several facilities from Agricultural to Correctional where we drill to lead off with 400' the 2.5" and wye it to two 150-200' 1.5"/1.75" lines -- and the 2" can't feed them at the distances & flows we want. But if you're just looking at pulling 200' of hose and flowing fairly high volumes, 2" may be fine and lighter and easier to move than 2.5".
          IACOJ Canine Officer
          20/50

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          • #6
            Our first due Engine has
            1 - 150' 1 3/4" Trash Line on the Front Bumper
            1 - 200' 1 3/4" Crosslay on the Chauffers Side
            3 - 200' 1 3/4" Crosslays on the Officers Side
            1 - 2 1/2" Crosslay on Chauufers Side
            2 - 2 1/2" Crosslay on Officers side (1 w/TFT 1 w/Smooth bore
            1 - 2 1/2" Preconnect on rear
            1 - 150'> 5" preconnect on Officers side (this makes it easy to deploy the Deluge gun)
            1500' 5" Supply line
            Neptune 33

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            • #7
              All three first due engines are set up pretty much the same. 2 x 1.75" crosslays, 200' each. 1 rear preconnect 1.75" x 250'. 1 rear preconnect 2" x 250'. Nozzles are all TFT, either 200 or 350 gpm. Two engines have 200' booster reels (1") and the other has a 100' trash line (1.75"). Reserve engine is the same, except that the 2" line is replaced with a 150' car fire line (1.75").

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              • #8
                Our first due engine has 2, 2"x300' attack lines a 3" staight bore deck gun and a portable monitor with 2, 3" connetions and adjustable nozzle. Our next due carries 3, 2" x 200' attack lines a preconnet 2 1/2" heavy attack and a 3" deck gun with adjustable nozzle. All attack lines have TFT 350 gpm nozzles.

                We usally use as a motto, " If you can't make headway with 2 attack lines it's time for the (big guns)".
                RDS3604

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