I wasn't so much talking about career Vs. vollies. I'm sorry if it come off that way or if I upset anyone. All the career FF's I know are great people. I was more talking about our public. As for coming on strong, these are statements I have heard many times. I was more looking at the effect it has on us getting vol's, people just don't want any part of "something" like that. I understand alot of it is are own doing, but I don't see why we should have to treat the public as "customers" we're not selling anything. We are only demanded by law to provide fire protection, but we choose to do the rest and if we don't, the public says we're useless, but on the same token if we go to a tree on wires and block the road we're jerks 'cause ther is plenty of room to "get around" the tree. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't, I was more looking for how do you fix it when it breaks either way? How do you make the public see the job we do for what it is instead of another pain in the a** road block. We've even put a timer on our "raid siren" so it don't blow after 9pm 'cause people we're complaining about being woke up at night, after we did that for the public, it's why don't it work after 9, it's dangerous not to know you're coming out of the fire house with those trucks.

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