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  • ceno2749
    Another great post!!!
    I agree with you 100%
    College buff,
    your post is sad but true.
    The education system is going down the crapper and it is getting worse with the start of every school year.

    To all: I too am appalled by the lack of respect for our flag and country. I love this country, but not the yahoos running it!

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  • CollegeBuff
    From what I see of the (alleged) education my brother is getting in his grade school, the reason kids don't know anything about what the 4th of July means is that it doesn't fall during the school year. Christmas, Easter (only if it's a parochial school, of course), Washington and Lincoln's birthdays, and hell, even Chinease New Year have entire weeks dedicated to learning them in elementary schools nowadays. And why blow time on our nation's birth when we can learn environmentalist propaganda about the environment (anybody else see that special Sunday night?) or watch videos about how cool it is to have two dads.

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  • Chief Reason
    HiHo Mongo:
    Chief Reason here. I was profoundly moved by you posting. My wife and I loaded up the bicycles and went to my hometown for a ride and to take in the parade. Each time an American flag went by, we stood up, I took my cap off and stood until it was past us. I was amazed at how many younger parade-goers did not stand and pay their respects. Even more disappointing was the fact that parents did not take the time to corral their kids and explain the significance of the American flag.
    Later, as my wife and I were riding our bikes, I turned and asked how many kids knew why we celebrated the 4th of July or even if they knew the date that we won our independence from England. And how many times has our glorious flag flown in battle? I fear that we are becoming a lost nation, because we are so wrapped in figuring out how we are going to spend a holiday that we have forgotten the holiday's true meaning. I guess no one has the time anymore.
    Keep on posting, Mongo. You truly stimulate the thought process and provide a lot of food for thought.
    Strength and honor.

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  • D Kelly
    "Those who would surrender liberty for security deserve neither liberty nor security"

    Benjamin Franklin-1775

    As true today as it was 225 years ago.

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  • CFD14
    AMEN AGAIN!!!!

    Brother mongo, you are right again. I was listening to a program on July 3rd. It was about the Bill of Rights and the Constitution in General, and how far away from the Founding Fathers intentions and interpretations we have been led or driven. I wish I had the transcript to post here.

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  • hctrouble25
    On the Fourth of July I heard about a poll that the US education system took last year. It stated that 3/4 of teenagers today don't even know who we won our independence from! Scary.

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  • onycs
    Great Post. We went to a local celebration at the park with a symphony and fireworks. It was very sad to see the lack of respect. As they were raising the flag and playing the national anthem I don't think 25% of the thousands there actually stood to pay respect or even stopped their loud and rude conversations. I agree that the government is controlling too much, and it is because we as a people have gotten lazy. We don't want to work to control our kids, or keep a job, or pay our bills so let the government do it for us. We have so many new laws each year because we cannot take care of ourselves or our families. I think the founding fathers would be sick to see that after fighting for our freedom and our nation that we are, with increasing speed, creating a government very similiar to the one we fought to get away from. And most of the country is so focused on getting things the easy way that they don't realize what they are doing and most don't care.

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  • BucksEng91
    Amen and amen, brother. Government of, by, and for the people. A government that is a protector of liberties, not a mother hen or a big brother.

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  • mongofire_99
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    I saw this today and thought it might ineterst some of you so I thought I'd share it. From Neil Boortz, http://www.boortz.com/nealznuz.htm


    No .. that’s not early Christmas greetings for you. It’s my feelings for what has become perhaps the phoniest holiday on the American calendar. The Fourth of July. Independence Day. Give me a break.

    Yeah – you get your day off today. You have picnics, ball games, parades, road races and fireworks today. Then, tomorrow, it’s back to normal.

    Exceptions? Sure there are, and thank God for them! But by and large, the American people have long ago replaced their love of freedom with a love of government-provided security. Politicians know it, and it is on this love of security that they build their power. They hear you calling for a government solution to almost every problem you face, and they are more than willing to step in and take over.

    In short --- this holiday is phony. It’s empty. It’s shallow. Not ten percent of Americans will spend five seconds today thinking about true freedom and the sacrifices made by those who brought it to us.

    The Declaration of Independence is going to be taken off display today in Washington. They say it’s for a renovation. Most of you won’t miss it – won’t even know its gone.

    So --- have a great holiday. See you at the government trough tomorrow.


    What document? Well, it’s officially entitled “The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen United States of America.” We know it as The Declaration of Independence.

    I didn’t have a lot of time for show prep this morning. Instead of getting to the studios three and one-half hours ahead of time, I have about 45 minutes. I decided to spend much of that giving a quick re-read of the Declaration. Some sentences and phrases jumped out at me.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,

    It doesn’t say that all men ARE equal. It doesn’t say that all men should have equal wealth. It doesn’t even say that all men should have equal opportunity. It merely says they are created equal. From that point on, it seems to me, it’s pretty well up to them.

    ...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights,

    This comes as news to Bill Clinton. I still have the transcript of the speech where Clinton said that it was the Constitution, not the Creator, that gave us our rights. Leave it to a leftist. Leftists think that America is great because of government. Remember, whatever God gives you, no man can take away. Whatever government gives you, government can take back.

    ...that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Golly! Where’s that “right to a job?” Where’s that “right to a home?” Where’s that “right to fairness” that Jesse Jackson Jr. was lobbying for in that Democrat Party meeting in California last week. It says you can pursue happiness. A successful pursuit is not guaranteed.

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

    Question. If government derives its just powers from the consent of the governed --- that would be us --- how can we give the government our consent to do something for us or to somebody else that we can’t do ourselves? I have no right to steal your property for my use. How can I give my “consent” to the government to go out there and steal from you for my benefit?

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,

    We’re getting to that point, my friends. There can be no question but that the Imperial Federal Government of the United States is more of a threat now to personal liberty than it is a protector of personal liberty. As the Declaration says – it is my right – OUR right – to abolish it and start all over again.

    That’s just for beginnings, folks. Tell you what --- here’s the text. You read it for yourself. Who knows, maybe you’ll forget about your government-provided security for a day and actually think a bit about your freedom.

    After you’ve given it a read --- continue on in Nealz Nuze. Don Feder has written something interesting. It’s A Letter from the Founding Fathers dated July 4, 2001

    The Declaration of Independence of the Thirteen Colonies In CONGRESS, July 4, 1776

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen United States of America,

    When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

    Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained, and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies, without the consent of our legislatures.

    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

    *For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    *For protecting them by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    *For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    *For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    *For depriving us in many cases of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    *For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
    *For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    *For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    *For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

    He has abdicated Government here by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

    In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms. Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

    Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren.

    *We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us.
    *We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here.
    *We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence.

    They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

    We, therefore, the Representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare.

    That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown,

    and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do.

    And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.


    This was written by Don Feder and appeared on The Heritage Foundation’s townhall.com website this morning. Normally I would just link you to this excellent column. I don’t want to taken the chance that you’ll skip over this, though, so I’m putting the entire column right here.

    July 4, 2001

    A Letter From The Founding Fathers

    From: The Founding Fathers
    To: The current generation of Americans

    On this the 225th anniversary of our independence, those of us you call the Founding Fathers have assembled in Continental heaven to assess the condition of the republic we bequeathed to you.

    It's true America has become the wealthiest, most powerful nation on earth. But so was the British Empire in 1776.

    Before we get specific, we must confess that we are annoyed by your habit of misinterpreting our words. Take the First Amendment, where we said Congress shall make no law "respecting an establishment of religion." You usually neglect the other half of the injunction, "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

    As anyone in the first Congress, which passed the amendment, could have told you, "establishment of religion" means an established church, which all are forced to support. We never intended to create a virtue-less republic, by prohibiting public expressions of faith.

    In the Declaration of Independence, we acknowledged that rights are endowed by our Creator. Absent a Creator, there are no inalienable rights.

    In the Second Amendment, we said the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. In our day, if private citizens hadn't owned guns there would have been no Lexington and Concord.

    Why would we bother guaranteeing a collective right to arm state militias? The rights enumerated in the first 10 amendments are restraints on government, not grants of power to it.

    If you ever wake up to what's going on, your leaders will have cause to fear an armed citizenry. We viewed elective office as a sacrifice. For your politicians, it's an opportunityr. We rid America of a monarchy. You've established an elected aristocracy. We were farmers, merchants and professionals who resumed our careers after a brief term of service and never lost touch with our constituents.

    You are governed by an elite so different from you as to almost constitute a separate species. Your elected rulers hold office for 20 or 30 years, becoming increasingly detached from their roots, while rewarding themselves lavish emoluments and pensions.

    We revolted over a modest tax on tea. Your tax burden is staggering. Despite the enormous expenditures of your prodigal politicians, even they can't spend it all. And still, many resist returning the federal surplus to its rightful owners. We rejected taxation without representation. You condone your own serfdom.

    In the Declaration, we complained that King George III had "sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance." You complacently tolerate a bureaucracy that resembles all Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

    Eat out their substance? Today, almost one in 13 Americans works for a branch of government. Harass our people? There are bureaucrats to tell you how to run your business, build on your property and raise your children. Government makes decisions for you regarding your health, safety and welfare.

    We envisioned the judiciary as a coequal branch of government that interprets laws based on the clear meaning of language. Your courts have become a law unto themselves -- raising taxes, deciding elections, ordering private relationships and substituting their will for that of legislators.

    We warned you against entangling alliances. You are eager to form defensive pacts with postage-stamp countries whose security couldn't conceivably be related to your own. This will only serve to drag you into their petty quarrels, sapping your strength.

    We recognized that government and society must rest on divine wisdom. George Washington observed, "Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."

    You cultivate national immorality, in the apparent belief that abortion, adolescent access to pornography, cohabitation, public distribution of prophylactics and compulsory acceptance of perversion will somehow lead to a society whose citizens have the self-discipline to sacrifice for the common good.

    Benjamin Franklin said we gave you a republic "if you can keep it." From our vantage point, it does not look promising. Were we alive today, we'd raise another rebellion.

    ©2001 Creators Syndicate, Inc.


    Isn't it typical? A few stupid people misuse a dangerous product, and here come the calls to ban it completely.

    No, we're not talking about guns. The American Academy of Pediatrics is calling for a ban on the sale of fireworks to consumers. One pediatric emergency-room specialist called fireworks injuries "our annual national disaster." Almost half of the 11,000 people injured by improper fireworks use last year were children.

    It's the same transparent logic that prompts the calls to ban guns. We have to do it for the children! By that same logic, we may as well ban swimming pools, bicycles, or any other product that could possibly cause injury to the consumer. Yeah --- let’s just get the government to do away with everything that might cause injury to one of our precious children.

    Just how is it that the government can discharge fireworks and we can’t? Isn’t that government supposed to get its powers from us? So --- we’re giving our consent to the government to do something that our government says we can’t do ourselves? Just how does that work?

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