Preconnect lengths

[choad33]

Here is what we got
on the bumper
150 1 3/4 with a rockwood (a.k.a NAVY) nozzle and the 6 ft fog aplicator

4 1 3/4 crosslays 210 ft in length
2 with fog 2 with sb tips
why do we have 4 lines the same length well that is what works for us we have a lot of row homes and is not uncommon to have 12 to 15 1 3/4 in service in the fire building and the exposures. The 10 ft is a short section of hose so if the 200ft is not going to make it the two shoulder loads are pulled and the Drive operator brakes the line at the 10 footer giving us 200 ft to add to the 100 to 300 foot line of 3 inch off the back.
off the back is the 100 to 300 line of 3" you pull what you need it is packed in 100 packs, this has a water thief on it. A 200 foot preconnect of 2 1/2 with 100 spare under the load 1 1/4 sp tip. 2 loads of 1000 ft of 3.5 in hose YES we still use 3.5 in hose. Last 1000 ft of 2.5 inch flat loaded with a 100 to 300gpm fog nozzle Our other engine is the same except that there are only 2 crosslays, 1200 ft of 3.5 hose and 500 ft of 2.5 spare

[Dickey]

In my dept. we have the following:

First out engine: 4-1 1/2" 200ft. preconnects
1-2 1/2" 200ft. preconnect

Second out engine is the same.
Third out "Rescue Engine":2-1 1/2" 200ft. preconnects. A 2 1/2" 200ft. preconnect.

All three of our engines have at least 600ft. of 2 1/2" hose with a gated wye on the end of it that we call the "appartment lay". This is used for anything we can't get close enough with our engine so our preconnects would reach. We would take off our preconnects, hook them to the wye, and pull off what we need.

Stay low and keep your powder dry!

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Lt.Jason Knecht
Altoona Fire Dept.
Altoona, WI

[911WACKER]

ENGINE 533

2-200FT 1 3/4 W/TFT AUTOS

1-100FT 1 1/2 W/TFT AUTO(trash line front bumper)

1-200FT 2 1/2 W/TFT AUTO

hoping to add 1-150ft 2" w/sb soon

ENGINE 532

2-200FT 1 1/2 95GPM NOZZLES

1-100FT 1 1/2 95 GPM NOZZLE

1-1"BOOSTER LINE

1-200FT 2 1/2 250GPM NOZZLE

[C Montgomery]

Engine 1

Crosslay 1
200' 1 3/4 with a TFT Midmatic

Crosslay 2
200' 1 3/4 with a 15/16 smooth bore

No. 3 Discharge
Gated Wye with 100' 1 1/2 trashline and 100' 1 1/2 with piercing nozzle

Rear discharge
250' 3" with TFT Blitzfire portable monitor nozzle

[ARFF2/66]

Our engines are set up as follows.

Engine 21
2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected crosslays
1 1 3/4' 100' preconnected front bumper Speedlay (Trash/Jump Line)
1 1" 200 booster line (used for overhaul & washdowns at 10-50's
1 2 1/2" rear preconnect playpipe with tips.400' Spare 2 1/2" Hose
1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled high rise pack w/gated "Y", 1 3/4" nozzle and spanners.
1050' 5" LDH supply line.
25' 5" soft suction front bumper.

Engine 22

2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected crosslays
1 1 3/4" 100' preconnected front bumper Speedlay (Trash/Jump line).
1 2 1/2" 200' Rear Preconnect Playpipe with tips. 400' Spare 2 1/2" Hose
1050' of 5" LDH Supply Line.
25' 5" Soft suction front bumper.
1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled High Rise pack with gated "Y", nozzle and spanners.

Engine 23

2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected Crosslays
1 1 3/4" 100' preconnected Speedlay right side Running Board.
1 2 1/2" 200' Rear Preconnect. 400' spare 2 1/2" hose
2 1" 200' Preconnected Booster lines
1050' 5" LDH Supply Line
25' 5" soft suction front bumper
1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled High Rise Pack with Gated "Y", nozzle, & spanners.

All the High Rise Packs are used in conjuction with the Rear 2 1/2" preconnect.

[Smoke286]

all our pumpers have 2 X 200' 1 1/2" preconnect. plus another 600' on the hose beds

[Firehose]

In an effort to simplify things, we have put our smallest and shortest toward the front and longer/bigger toward the rear. all are color coded hose and labels.

Front Jump- 1 1/2 X 100 foot (white)
Speedlays 1 3/4 X 150 foot (orange)
1 3/4 X 200 foot (red)
Cross lays 2 X 200 Foot (blue)
2 1/2 x 150 foot (tan)
Blitz 3 X 250 foot (yellow)

[squirrel721]

My Engine carries 5 pre connects.
1. 1 100ft 1 3/4 bumper line
2. 2 200ft 1 3/4 cross lays
3. 1 300ft 1 3/4 rear pre connect
4. 1 400ft leader line w/ 200ft of 2 1/2 to a wye then 200ft of 1 3/4

We are a rural department with alot of influence from the District of Columbia and the area paid Fire Departments.

[E_man9RFD]

On my engine we have 2 200' mattydales (inch a 3/4) one smooth bore, the other combination nozzle. We have a Bazooka line off the rear, 2 and half smooth bore on 100' of 2 1/2 hose.

We also have 100' of inch and 3/4 off the rear for trash/car fire line. (Combination knob with detatchable fog tip.)

[stanton]

Our newest engine has the following pre-connects:

2- 150' 1 3/4 crosslay (madidale)
1- 200' 2 1/2 crosslay (flat lay)
1- 100' 1 3/4 bumper trash line (flatlay)
This is a quint w/o a booster real, all other engines have a 200' booster line

We used to run twin 200' 1 3/4 but some officer must have gotten a wild hair and we changed. Now there are time's when we run out of hose and use the house bundles with 3" supply and a gated Y. I liked the 200' better, maybe not for car fire's but better for structures.

We have 2 200' 1 3/4", 1 200' 2 1/2" and 1 100' 1 3/4" perconects on all 3 of our pumpers. Our ladder tower has 2 200' 1 3/4" preconnects and a 100' donut at the basket. This seems to work well for us. But I think you need to look at what type of situations you have handled in the past, and adjust your setup to what works for you.

Captain
Chris McDonald
Fairview Fire Department

Opinions expressed are mine and do not in any way reflect the view or opinion of my department.

Gotta echo Hog: 4 lines the same length is pretty silly.

two 200' 1 3/4" [house fires]
one 400' 1 3/4" [frequent use in garden apts, large office bldgs w/o standpipes]
one 250' 2" [house fires > 1 room]
one 200'2 1/2" [commercial store fronts]

For those of you listing standpipe packs, he asked for preconnects.

But since we are on the subject, how are you handling the new code allowance for 200'hose reach in standpipe buildings [used to be 100']?

We use the following:

200 feet 0f 1 inch: forestry hose
100 feet of 1 3/4 inch: trash line
2-200 foot 2 inch lines
300 foot 2 inch line
200 feet of 3 inch: preconnected deluge line
dead lay of 300 feet 3 inch to a wye with 100 feet of 2 inch

Works for us.

Stay safe,

FyredUp

Our hose is not preconnected. The control firefighter of the engine company estimates how much hose will be needed for the stretch for each job. Once there has been sufficient hose pulled based on information from the Engine Company Officer (ECO) to make the stretch, the control firefighter breaks the line and hooks into a discharge port or hands it to the Chauffer (ECC). (This is similiar to what some of you do all the time with your supply hose. We just do it this way with our attack line).


[This message has been edited by GBordas (edited 06-27-2001).]

Every Engine Company here has:
Side preconnects
1-150' of 1 3/4"
1-200' of 1 3/4"
Rear preconnects
1-200' of 1 3/4
1-300' of 2"

Ladder Companies:
1-150' of 1 3/4"
1-200' of 1 3/4"

Hose Packs:
25'of 3" wyed (gated) to 100' of 1 3/4"