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  • #16
    All our apparatus are set up essentially the same.

    Four bumper lines: One 50' of 1", one 150 feet 1", and two 150' of 2"

    Seven crosslays: Three 400 feet four 150 feet.

    Rear: Two 250 foot 2 1/2 or 3 inch lines. 2600 or 5200 foot 5 inch supply beds. One 400 feet 2" and one 150 foot 2".

    Flows range from:
    50 to 150 gpm for the 1" lines
    250 to 400 gpm for the 2" lines
    400 to 800 gpm for the 2 1/2" and 3" lines.

    We prefer long preconnects to make and break drills on the fire ground. All lines are refered to as long or short.

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    • #17
      E-79 in Alvarado TX:hose loads and Lengths
      Front Bumper: 100' 1 3/4"
      Crosslay #1 : 150' 1 3/4"
      Crosslay #2 : 200' 1 3/4"
      Driver Side Rear: 300' 3"
      Officer Side Rear: 300' 3"

      We have found that these loads work best for us. All 1 3/4" handlines have TFT automatics and the 3" handlines have Elkhart Selectables.


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      My opinion does not reflect on that of my career department, Michael Prescott
      Capt./EMT-B

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      • #18
        My dept runs 2 200' 1 3/4 and 2 200' 2 1/2 preconnects on each rig. Engine 2 in addition has a 50' 1 3/4 trashline.

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        • #19
          2 200` 1 3/4 1 100` 1 3/4 1 300` 1 3/4 plus a highrise pack with 200` and an officers pack with 100`

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          • #20
            Every Engine Company here has:
            Side preconnects
            1-150' of 1 3/4"
            1-200' of 1 3/4"
            Rear preconnects
            1-200' of 1 3/4
            1-300' of 2"

            Ladder Companies:
            1-150' of 1 3/4"
            1-200' of 1 3/4"

            Hose Packs:
            25'of 3" wyed (gated) to 100' of 1 3/4"

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            • #21
              Our hose is not preconnected. The control firefighter of the engine company estimates how much hose will be needed for the stretch for each job. Once there has been sufficient hose pulled based on information from the Engine Company Officer (ECO) to make the stretch, the control firefighter breaks the line and hooks into a discharge port or hands it to the Chauffer (ECC). (This is similiar to what some of you do all the time with your supply hose. We just do it this way with our attack line).


              [This message has been edited by GBordas (edited 06-27-2001).]

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              • #22
                We use the following:

                200 feet 0f 1 inch: forestry hose
                100 feet of 1 3/4 inch: trash line
                2-200 foot 2 inch lines
                300 foot 2 inch line
                200 feet of 3 inch: preconnected deluge line
                dead lay of 300 feet 3 inch to a wye with 100 feet of 2 inch

                Works for us.

                Stay safe,

                FyredUp

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                • #23
                  Gotta echo Hog: 4 lines the same length is pretty silly.

                  two 200' 1 3/4" [house fires]
                  one 400' 1 3/4" [frequent use in garden apts, large office bldgs w/o standpipes]
                  one 250' 2" [house fires > 1 room]
                  one 200'2 1/2" [commercial store fronts]

                  For those of you listing standpipe packs, he asked for preconnects.

                  But since we are on the subject, how are you handling the new code allowance for 200'hose reach in standpipe buildings [used to be 100']?

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                  • #24
                    We have 2 200' 1 3/4", 1 200' 2 1/2" and 1 100' 1 3/4" perconects on all 3 of our pumpers. Our ladder tower has 2 200' 1 3/4" preconnects and a 100' donut at the basket. This seems to work well for us. But I think you need to look at what type of situations you have handled in the past, and adjust your setup to what works for you.

                    Captain
                    Chris McDonald
                    Fairview Fire Department

                    Opinions expressed are mine and do not in any way reflect the view or opinion of my department.

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                    • #25
                      Our newest engine has the following pre-connects:

                      2- 150' 1 3/4 crosslay (madidale)
                      1- 200' 2 1/2 crosslay (flat lay)
                      1- 100' 1 3/4 bumper trash line (flatlay)
                      This is a quint w/o a booster real, all other engines have a 200' booster line

                      We used to run twin 200' 1 3/4 but some officer must have gotten a wild hair and we changed. Now there are time's when we run out of hose and use the house bundles with 3" supply and a gated Y. I liked the 200' better, maybe not for car fire's but better for structures.
                      Go big or don't go at all

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                      • #26
                        On my engine we have 2 200' mattydales (inch a 3/4) one smooth bore, the other combination nozzle. We have a Bazooka line off the rear, 2 and half smooth bore on 100' of 2 1/2 hose.

                        We also have 100' of inch and 3/4 off the rear for trash/car fire line. (Combination knob with detatchable fog tip.)

                        "In all of us there are heroes... speak to them and they will come forth."

                        "In order for us to achieve all that is demanded of us, we must regard ourselves as greater than we are."

                        "Be excellent to each other."

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                        • #27
                          My Engine carries 5 pre connects.
                          1. 1 100ft 1 3/4 bumper line
                          2. 2 200ft 1 3/4 cross lays
                          3. 1 300ft 1 3/4 rear pre connect
                          4. 1 400ft leader line w/ 200ft of 2 1/2 to a wye then 200ft of 1 3/4

                          We are a rural department with alot of influence from the District of Columbia and the area paid Fire Departments.

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                          • #28
                            In an effort to simplify things, we have put our smallest and shortest toward the front and longer/bigger toward the rear. all are color coded hose and labels.

                            Front Jump- 1 1/2 X 100 foot (white)
                            Speedlays 1 3/4 X 150 foot (orange)
                            1 3/4 X 200 foot (red)
                            Cross lays 2 X 200 Foot (blue)
                            2 1/2 x 150 foot (tan)
                            Blitz 3 X 250 foot (yellow)

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                            • #29
                              all our pumpers have 2 X 200' 1 1/2" preconnect. plus another 600' on the hose beds

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                              • #30
                                Our engines are set up as follows.

                                Engine 21
                                2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected crosslays
                                1 1 3/4' 100' preconnected front bumper Speedlay (Trash/Jump Line)
                                1 1" 200 booster line (used for overhaul & washdowns at 10-50's
                                1 2 1/2" rear preconnect playpipe with tips.400' Spare 2 1/2" Hose
                                1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled high rise pack w/gated "Y", 1 3/4" nozzle and spanners.
                                1050' 5" LDH supply line.
                                25' 5" soft suction front bumper.

                                Engine 22

                                2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected crosslays
                                1 1 3/4" 100' preconnected front bumper Speedlay (Trash/Jump line).
                                1 2 1/2" 200' Rear Preconnect Playpipe with tips. 400' Spare 2 1/2" Hose
                                1050' of 5" LDH Supply Line.
                                25' 5" Soft suction front bumper.
                                1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled High Rise pack with gated "Y", nozzle and spanners.

                                Engine 23

                                2 1 3/4" 200' preconnected Crosslays
                                1 1 3/4" 100' preconnected Speedlay right side Running Board.
                                1 2 1/2" 200' Rear Preconnect. 400' spare 2 1/2" hose
                                2 1" 200' Preconnected Booster lines
                                1050' 5" LDH Supply Line
                                25' 5" soft suction front bumper
                                1 1 3/4" 200' donut rolled High Rise Pack with Gated "Y", nozzle, & spanners.

                                All the High Rise Packs are used in conjuction with the Rear 2 1/2" preconnect.

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