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    Sparta Fire Department - DOA

    I was at Kentucky Speedway for the first time last weekend for some training and figured I would see what all the hooplah was about this story. I was not surprised to find that the Sparta Fire Department has closed. The fire department in Warsaw, KY is covering the area now. I visited with some of their crew while I was in the neighborhood and they told me there were some financial issues that led to the demise of the Sparta department. Not a lack of funds, but a lack of accurate record keeping (so I was told). It makes me wonder now if there was more to this story that what we were able to read about online....

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    What makes the owners and employees of a strip club different than the people at the grocery store down the street? They deserve the same service from a fire department, so why can't they support it as well.

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    Sorry to all of those out there who feel that this gives the department a black eye, however, I think its great. The money was not gathered illegally, so what's the big deal? Now, if the Male strippers had helped would there still be much ado over this? Maybe they should have had an all male review also.

    Or, the girls could have made an anonymous donation.

    Lighten up folks, its not like they were taking it off in the firehoue.


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    I am not sure what the Sparta FD annual budget is but I am sure it is not more than a shoestring. As for NASCAR footing the bill for the new truck...HA...They provide all the fire, rescue, and EMS for their races.

    If they did not accept the donation would we not have a forum to criticize the department for not accepting the much needed money??

    Smaller volunteer departments take what they can get. Blame this one on the media for blowing the issue out of proportion.

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    I am a female fire fighter....and I am not offended by this at all. We have actually looked into doing celebrity auctions at our firehouse to raise money to put an addition on our building and buy new equipment. What is the difference..we are still selling people for money. Do I think my department would utilize this type of fund raising...probably not...some of the wives and older members might not like it much. But I say whatever pays the bills...if it ain't illegal and the business people were OK with it, then what is the harm? As far as religion goes...I have never had a church donate any money to me or the causes I am involved in so I say they stay out of it. The only way we could do a boot drive or coin drive would be to stand out on a county road or interstate...and I don't see that happening. We have a bar in our town that helps us do rock benefits with local bands, etc. to raise our money, and some people tell us this is wrong because beer is sold there and we are contributing to alcoholism. Well you are never going to please everyone so we do what we need to do and so far we have had no problems.

    [This message has been edited by hctrouble25 (edited 06-05-2001).]

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    I seen a post here that said that nascar had a track about 15 miles from his town and that nascar never provided a piece of equipment. Well I went to Forbs magazine web site and guess who is listed among the 400 richest americans, yes the Frances who own nascar. Perhaps it is time for them to let lose a little money and help protect the people who provide their income. The fans need protection as well as the race crews.
    Thank you for letting me have a say. LC
    also, should big companies like that get big tax breaks?

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    FIRST OFF I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT I LOVE EACH AND ALL OF YA'......NOW FOR THE CUM-UPINS...WHY? IS IT THAT AS FIREMEN SOME OF US GET ON THIS HIGH-HORSE OF MORALLITY? NOW I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO BE GOOD IN PUBLIC AND WE ALSO HAVE TO BE GENUINE IN OUR BELIFES, BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE READ HERE CHURN MY GUTTS.. PLEASE... IF THOSE LADIES AND MGT. WANT TO PAY FOR MY NEW TRUCK HELL YEAH I'LL TAKE THE MONEY AND NOT LOOSE A SECONDS SLEEP OVER IT. DO WE NOT GIVE THESE PLACES THE SAME PROTECTION AS ALL OTHERS...AND WOULD WE NOT WALK THE LINE IF THIS PLACE WAS LIT-UP BRIGHT AND WE NEEDED TO DO A RESCUE?..ALL I'M SAYIN' IS JUST UN- SADDLE THAT HORSE AND COME BACK TO THE PLANET WITH THE REST OF US!!! WE LIVE IN A WORLD THAT EVERYONE ELSE WATCHES ON TV. SO LETS ALL ENJOY A BEER AND HALF NEKID LADIES..

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    Well, 'tit for tat' what the heck.

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    IT KINDA MAKES THE CITY, AND DEPT. TO LOOK BAD.
    "BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY DO FOR FILL THE BOOT"

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    Whatever it takes to turn a buck and buy a new truck,so long as it's legal. I feel the boys were doing the right thing.

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    Do you think the strippers are helping firefighters stay "abreast" of the situation??? Should they "TURN THE OTHER CHEEK"???

    I don't believe I said that.

    ANYWAY... I'm of two minds on this. First, is it a good reflection on the dept. getting money this way? No! Do I agree with what they did? No! It DOES pose some interesting questions. Does the "local crime syndicate" (if one really existed) launder it's money by contributing funds in ANY town? Does the local PD "look the other way" on any other charges that may arise ? Do the local authorities watch for "overcrowding" or possible "code violations"? Just how DO these things look to Joe Public?

    Now for the OTHER side of the coin... Don't the "customers" ie, the TOWNSPEOPLE, deserve the best protection that they dept. can afford? How DO the townspeople feel about it?

    Talk about fund raising!



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    I think it definately portrays a bad image for the department. I'm usually not one to be concerned about what other people think but this creates a poor image for what is supposed to be a respectable organization.

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    I just read the story and then looked on the map to see where Sparta was. It's centrally located between Louisville, Lexington and Cincinatti, which if I was a developer who wanted to build a large race track would be very appealing. I think that it was fine to accept the donation but I DON'T think that they should have done it in the manner they did. If the strip club wanted to raise money and make a donation then great! But the FireFighters should not have gone in there in their GEAR to collect money! That makes the department look bad to the public. And in todays world public relations is just as important as putting the fire out in someones house.

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    I can't say that any fire department ever has enough money. I think any donations to the fire service today is more than welcome, and is appreciated by many. Yea, maybe a strip club is not everyone's favorite hangout, but if they want to help, why not. Would you turn down the donation if they offered it? I think its a great idea, and if its working for them, even better! I like to see businesses helping their local fire depts, because all to often in this time, support from the community is lacking in places. Go Girls! Good luck to Sparta FD and all FDs in future fundraising efforts.

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    I don't see anything wrong with the girls taking donations. It's probably not the best situation to have the department show up in uniform and take the money, then they become the solicitors (no pun intended).

    I might suggest that our local "gentlemen's club" do the same thing. The locals keep trying to shut the place down even though there has not been one incident of any type since they opened (They won their latest battle in court). Maybe a little positive PR would help the club AND the fire department.

    But like I said, the FD should accept the donations, not go in collecting them.

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