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  • nfpa 1710

    If the 1710 standard gets through all of the hurdles will the fire depts. have to go but it. I work for a small dept. 3 stations with 45 men and we are well under staffed and need a new station and men. Will 1710 affect us?

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    The best answer for now is: Maybe.

    Questions to ask include:
    -- Does your city's leadership tend to like to follow consensus standards, or do they give two shakes of a rat's rear end?

    -- Does your community have the tax resources to support more firefighters, and if they do, does the fire department have the political clout to get those resources instead of, say, the schools or public works?

    -- Will NFPA 1710 be used for the basis of other agency's regulations that might put more pressure on your city council (i.e. adoption in whole or part by State-OSHA)

    -- Will the city simply look at it and say in effect, "Look, we can't meet NFPA 1710. What does it matter if we have 50% of the staffing to make 1710, or 75% -- either case, we're not meeting the standard. So since we can't afford all the extra staff to make 1710, we not going to add any staff towards making 1710."

    I guess many of the above are on the "negative" side -- on the positive side you might have a situation where the city can turn around and say, "By adding a couple positions stragetically, we can meet 2in/2out on 1st due apparatus AND 1710."

    But whether it helps or doesn't probably still rests predominantly on local conditions. If you don't have the resources now to come close to 1710, those resources aren't going to magically appear by the adoption of a resolution in Anaheim. If you are close, then it gives the Chief a swiss-army knife to add to his toolbag at budget time.

    (I say swiss-army knife since all the stuff in 1710 can be found and justified from other sources, 1710 just puts it together in one place. Of course, sometimes the big, full size tools are a lot better than a swiss army knife, tools that can be crafted to better fit your specific location.)



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