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  • Trying a new staffing program

    im trying to start a new program for my dept. we are basically a 3 station dept covering 20 miles running 2000 calls a year. my idea is to have 4 members in our main station 24 hours a day basically covering shifts. i was wondering if anyone has done this before and how it worked out. was there any problems they faced or if anyone has any ideas that would help.


    anything would be great!

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    Village where I lived in MI covers 36 square miles and runs around 700 calls a year, including medicals. They are POC.

    They staff 2 people during the day weekdays, plus the paid chief, and two people on the overnight (10-6) seven days a week.

    This covers medicals and gets them out the door for fire calls.

    A significant portion of their calls are in the village (pop ~6000) where one of the two stations is located.

    In addition to fire5555's questions, I'd wonder how the population is distributed.

    Two thousand calls per year is borderline paid staff territory.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jlaakso350 View Post
      im trying to start a new program for my dept. we are basically a 3 station dept covering 20 miles running 2000 calls a year. my idea is to have 4 members in our main station 24 hours a day basically covering shifts. i was wondering if anyone has done this before and how it worked out. was there any problems they faced or if anyone has any ideas that would help.


      anything would be great!
      you don't give nearly enough information for anyone to give you any true help. You have to say what your manpower availability is, how many and what types of trucks, types of runs you do, mutual aid, whether or not you do fire prevention or inspection...
      Your request is just way too vague.

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      • #4
        Not nearly enough info to give you any advice.

        What is your current arrangement in terms of staffing? What is your budget? What is the average cost per man including training and benefits in your area?

        A lot more information is needed before we can give you anything back.
        Train to fight the fires you fight.

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        • #5
          sorry for the delayed response. it is all volunteer. we currently have 3 stations covering about 2000 calls a year. our membership includes around 100 people, 25-35 being mostly active. our plan is to staff the central station with around the clock, 4 members, in some kind of shifts. we have discussed 0000-0600, 0600-1200, 1200-1800, 1800-0000. depending on a members availability, they can pick up one shift or do all four shifts. we made it so we can only staff for 24 hours on a shift and must have 12 hours off between 24s, just a little cya and it gets people to go out with there family and not always there.

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          • #6
            not going to cost us anything except a few beds and a couch or such for a sleeping room. the crews would consist of a min of 3 with a max of 5. training can be done every shift. the benefits is to provide a much quicker service to our community. hopefully getting a fire truck on scene with a proper crew to handle any emergency.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jlaakso350 View Post
              not going to cost us anything except a few beds and a couch or such for a sleeping room. the crews would consist of a min of 3 with a max of 5. training can be done every shift. the benefits is to provide a much quicker service to our community. hopefully getting a fire truck on scene with a proper crew to handle any emergency.
              You may find that it could cost way more? Do you have separate sleeping dorms, bathrooms and showers? Policies about 'on duty" fraternization? How will you handle allegations of misconduct by the public, other members, members spouses? All of these things can be overcome, but I'd seek others input who have experience operating a staffed VFD, before just telling people to spend the night wherever they can find a comfortable spot.

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              • #8
                When our local ambulance squad moved into an old lumberyard building (it was the office and store, not a lumber shed) we carved out two bunk rooms - one for the guys, one for the girls, two bunks each - and generally discourage bunking out in the "day room." The squad is staffed 24/7 by at least two people.

                There's a certain effort by many agencies to move to "single user" rooms, even if a variety of people actually use each bunk over time.

                As for fraternization, where there's a will there's a way, but there should be a policy dealing with it, even for married couples. Look at what simple allegations have done in Alexandria...

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                • #9
                  Contact some of the departments in Prince George County, MD as they have been staffing volunteer stations for years.

                  My former VFD tried doing it for awhile but after about 6 months, folks got tired of spending scheduled chunks of time at the station. While not doing the volume that you are, we were averaging about 2-3 fire runs per 24-hour day. Very few of the married w/ children members were able to spend more than a shift every couple of weeks.
                  Train to fight the fires you fight.

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