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  • Begging for help

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    We are a small dept in N.E. Pa. we were once a solvent company that is over 100 yrs old. A number of us older members decided to let younger people take over not a good idea. They decided to start a for profit paramedic service it failed miserably. We lost everything engine, rescue truck, boat and ambulance. On top of this we had to sell the building and are still in debt to the IRS. A few of us older members stepped back up to the plate to find that most of our PPE was sold along with tools and communications equip. We recently received a donation in the form of an engine which our neighboring dept is housing for us at no cost. We are currently at odds with our municipal fathers about insurance which they are finding reasons not to pay. The are using excuses such as training which we all have and equipment which we do have some to get us started. We are looking for any usable PPE (turnout gear) hand lights, misc tools, and communications equipment. We have no money at this time to purchase everything we need although we can squeak by for a while with what we do have, but the T.O.G is a big issue. If anyone has any of these items or anything else laying around your station and would like to donate it to us it would be greatly appreciated. i myself stepped up because I can't see the department closing because of mismanagement and I thank god it wasn't because the money was embezzled. At 62 years old I thought I'd had enough but life goes on and I hope someone can help us so that life can go on for our dept. In case I forgot to mention we are all volunteer and will recieve no other financial assistance for our municipality other than insurance and fuel. Again I'm hoping some of our bothers can help us out to get back on our feet. Any questions or information please email me at: tom.skilonger@yahoo.com. Thank you for taking the time to reads this.

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    Originally posted by tom skilonger View Post
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    We are a small dept in N.E. Pa. we were once a solvent company that is over 100 yrs old. A number of us older members decided to let younger people take over not a good idea. They decided to start a for profit paramedic service it failed miserably. We lost everything engine, rescue truck, boat and ambulance. On top of this we had to sell the building and are still in debt to the IRS. A few of us older members stepped back up to the plate to find that most of our PPE was sold along with tools and communications equip. We recently received a donation in the form of an engine which our neighboring dept is housing for us at no cost. We are currently at odds with our municipal fathers about insurance which they are finding reasons not to pay. The are using excuses such as training which we all have and equipment which we do have some to get us started. We are looking for any usable PPE (turnout gear) hand lights, misc tools, and communications equipment. We have no money at this time to purchase everything we need although we can squeak by for a while with what we do have, but the T.O.G is a big issue. If anyone has any of these items or anything else laying around your station and would like to donate it to us it would be greatly appreciated. i myself stepped up because I can't see the department closing because of mismanagement and I thank god it wasn't because the money was embezzled. At 62 years old I thought I'd had enough but life goes on and I hope someone can help us so that life can go on for our dept. In case I forgot to mention we are all volunteer and will recieve no other financial assistance for our municipality other than insurance and fuel. Again I'm hoping some of our bothers can help us out to get back on our feet. Any questions or information please email me at: tom.skilonger@yahoo.com. Thank you for taking the time to reads this.
    Why not consolidate with the closest department ?
    ?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tom skilonger View Post
      We are currently at odds with our municipal fathers about insurance which they are finding reasons not to pay. The are using excuses such as training which we all have and equipment which we do have some to get us started. .
      So who is the recognized agency that is providing fire protection to the Municipality? Perhaps the Town feels that they are getting a better bang for their buck from whomever that agency is.
      "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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      • #4
        While this may be a hard thing to do, but you have to come to terms with the municipal fathers. Even though you old members did not torpedo the fire company, the municipal fathers may have trust issues. You will have to convince them to restart again. Here are five things that you could show:
        1) That the ISO rating will suffer without the fire company.
        2) How fire response times will suffer without the fire company.
        3) That the time it takes to respond to medical calls will suffer (if you intend to do any level of EMS).
        4) That the community supports you. If you present a petition, that the community signs, that could show the community wants your service back.
        5) How you will bring back the service at minimal expense, since you are basically starting over.

        It may take a lot of convincing, even though you are just trying to provide a community service. Its called guilt by association. Even though you did not torpedo the fire company, in the first place, the ones that did muddied the waters and you will have to build trust again.

        If you cannot convince the municipal fathers to reinstate you, you may have to approach the fire company that took over to provide service and join them. Could even put a plan together to have a substation of their fire company and present it to them. At least that may get a station setup again in your community.

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        • #5
          I kinda thought we weren't getting the whole story here....It's amazing what a simple internet research can reveal...

          Like this:
          http://archives.timesleader.com/2002..._A_DISPUT.html

          or this:
          http://archives.timesleader.com/2002...SAYS_HIS_.html


          So....almost sounds to me like yet ANOTHER typical small Pennsylvania Borough with multiple companies that are not needed......And maybe, possibly...Borough Council shut down one of them in an effort to be fiscally responsible to the taxpayers and now Mr. Skilonger wants to be a Chief again?????

          How about it Mr. Skilonger....Would you care to share the ENTIRE story this time or should I really start digging? This internet begging thing gets old after you have seen it the 1000th time.
          "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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