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  • #61
    Originally posted by Tree_68 View Post
    A recent training session here on transitional attack included a tidbit from LA City (pretty sure - outside chance it was County):

    In busy areas, engines are staffed with four. Officer and nozzleman go in, "outside man" holds the door, MPO does his thing.

    In less busy areas, engines are staffed with three. Officer and nozzleman go in, MPO gets set up, then holds the door.

    Open for correction.
    I don't believe the engineer leaves the panel once he starts flowing water. Securing a water supply, usually with the help of the third in crew, if he has to hand jack LDH to the plug, chucking a few tools toward the door, and keeping track of the lines pulled are the engineers duties.

    You're thinking he could be doing a lot more, right? In that and many other urban settings, your next three to four pieces of equipment are honestly there by the time you get your hose flaked out, so those jobs fill up quickly.

    That's not to say that the engineer never has to hustle. Getting stilled out to a call then finding out it is a working fire will cause the engineer to fill a bunch of roles until help arrives
    IAFF

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    • #62
      All I have to go on is what I was told - I rather like the idea of the pump operator staying at the pump, too.

      It was a vignette - there was no discussion of what the next due crews do - only a note on how one department handles flow control (which was a part of the discussion).

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Tree_68 View Post
        All I have to go on is what I was told - I rather like the idea of the pump operator staying at the pump, too.

        It was a vignette - there was no discussion of what the next due crews do - only a note on how one department handles flow control (which was a part of the discussion).
        That's cool. I was just expanding on my answer to you from an urban point of view. I've rarely been on scene of a working fire for more than a minute or two before the next in arrives.
        IAFF

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        • #64
          NFPA 1410 has standards for this. Check it out. We have been basing fire attack training on it recently. Its good for crew communication and really tests the ability of the Equipment Operator.

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