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How to pitch a Squad Proposal

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  • How to pitch a Squad Proposal

    We have a city of over 200,000 people probably more due to the homeless population. We fight a lot of fire and I personally feel we have a need for a heavy rescue squad that would run 2nd alarm or greater fires, advanced extrication, water rescue, hazmat type calls, rope calls, etc. Does anyone have any idea or proper way to write out a proposal? I want to pitch it to the command staff. We currently have heavy rescues but they are really just pumpers with a set of jaws. Any sample proposals or anything like that would help.

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    Biggest question would be how are you going to staff it without taking members off existing companies.

    Let's say a crew of 4 @ 70K per man x 3 shifts plus an extra 15% for the boss.

    Looking at a little over 1.1 million per year just in additional salaries not counting overtime for vacation and time off coverage, plus the cost and operation of the vehicle, the specialized equipment and specialized training.

    Could you close an engine to staff it ? If you are like most departments, unlikely.

    So how are you going to pay for it?

    To get anywhere you will have to show a defined need that goes beyond 10 or 12 times a year. You will have to show what is not working with the current system with specific examples and actual, not "could have" outcomes. Remember that you are competing with a lot of different missions and priorities within the department, as well as the priorities of the government as a whole, which likely does not view the fire department as especially important.
    Last edited by LaFireEducator; 02-29-2016, 01:22 PM.
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    • #3
      Visit a city, with a comparable population that has a heavy rescue squad and see how theirs operates. See if you could have a ride along, too. This may give you ideas on how to justify your request.

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      • #4
        I work in a city of a similar size (17 stations, pop just north of 200,000) and we have two heavy rescues. For extrication/TR calls, the city is divided in half, with the closest rescue going to each call. Each rescue is at a station with an engine. The engine is staffed with 3 (all rescue techs), the rescue is staffed with two and runs EMS calls first out. When a pin in or rescue assignment comes in, the engine shuts down and its crew members move to the rescue, so what you end up with is a five-man rescue company responding.

        We also have several two-man "Squads" (light rescues) assigned to busier stations to reduce wear and tear on the engine companies. The squads are first out on most EMS calls but also respond to fires, serious vehicle accidents, etc. The squad personnel were taken from engine and truck company staffing (we typically run 3 man engines and trucks instead of 4). While the concept certainly reduces mileage on the engines and trucks, it would be nice to have 4-man engines and trucks.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by NCFF2014 View Post
          I work in a city of a similar size (17 stations, pop just north of 200,000) and we have two heavy rescues. For extrication/TR calls, the city is divided in half, with the closest rescue going to each call. Each rescue is at a station with an engine. The engine is staffed with 3 (all rescue techs), the rescue is staffed with two and runs EMS calls first out. When a pin in or rescue assignment comes in, the engine shuts down and its crew members move to the rescue, so what you end up with is a five-man rescue company responding.

          We also have several two-man "Squads" (light rescues) assigned to busier stations to reduce wear and tear on the engine companies. The squads are first out on most EMS calls but also respond to fires, serious vehicle accidents, etc. The squad personnel were taken from engine and truck company staffing (we typically run 3 man engines and trucks instead of 4). While the concept certainly reduces mileage on the engines and trucks, it would be nice to have 4-man engines and trucks.
          You run a heavy rescue on all EMS calls?
          "This thread is being closed as it is off-topic and not related to the fire industry." - Isn't that what the Off Duty forum was for?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bones42 View Post
            You run a heavy rescue on all EMS calls?
            Well, no and yes. There are some EMS calls that we don't run period (most headaches, abdominal pain, basically, whatever our CAD system codes as "ambulance only"). Our private EMS agency ran north of 50,000 calls and the fire department ran 30,000 (including fire calls), so there'a a lot that we don't go to. But, for the rescue stations, the rescue is first out for EMS calls ahead of the engine. Why? I have no idea. Personally, I think the engine should be first out over the rescue, but that's above my pay grade. If one rescue is tied up on an EMS call, the other rescue is dispatched. If both rescues are tied up, we make due with a truck company and squad companies until one of the rescues and its corresponding engine can free up.

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            • #7
              Documentation is the key. If you can factually show why and what you need, then all you need to do is find the funding.

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