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    I'm 19, and I plan to become a firefighter/medic. Right now all I have is my emt license and some college. I'm going to work toward a degree in fire science and I planned to take medic this year. Fire 1 and 2 I haven't decided when I wanted to get that done yet but everyone is telling me to get medic first and save that for last because it's the most fun and enjoying part. Anyway I've also been thinking about the army. I've been thinking about active duty but I don't know if I'd want to put everything on hold for 4+ years. People have suggested the national guard to me which really seems appealing to me and I'm in the process of talking to a recruiter.

    Anywayyy... Just today someone had told me if I went through with the guard and and finished up my degree and certificates and everything while IN the guard, that I'd have around 4 years or whatever of being in the guard when I'm done with everything. I was told that if I did that, then tried to get a firefighting job with a department that they'd move me to "the top of their canadiate list" any truth to this? Or is it just bs?

    This is NOT the reason I want in the national guard, I've just always wanted to be part of the military. Someone told me this AFTER I had already been in contact with a recruiter. I'm also working/ plan to be working at an ambulance company throughout this.

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    You WILL NOT be pushed to the top of any hire list, that is absolute BS. You MAY receive some points for being a veteran, but that will only put you ahead of those who score as well on the tests as you do. It's not a huge advantage, but it usually has some benefits. Military service is generally seen as a plus to fire depts, so there is a benefit.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by johnsb View Post
      You WILL NOT be pushed to the top of any hire list, that is absolute BS. You MAY receive some points for being a veteran, but that will only put you ahead of those who score as well on the tests as you do. It's not a huge advantage, but it usually has some benefits. Military service is generally seen as a plus to fire depts, so there is a benefit.
      It seemed hard to believe. I going to enlist anyway just wanted to know if there was any truth behind that. Thanks.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by fire5555
        What state are you in??

        """the top of their candidate list" did an army recruiter tell you this?

        in my opinion not much pushes you to the top of the list.

        Is your goal a city department career???


        With that said, find out what your state and cities require just to apply. Check city web sites. Get that , than start applying and testing.
        He was a former marine and former FF in NYC who told me. I didn't really believe it that's why I came here.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by fire5555
          Suggest you by pass army

          And work on getting hired
          Like I said I only have an emt license haven't even gone through the academy yet.

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          • #6
            TK11,

            If the fire service is your ultimate goal I would suggest enlisting in the Air National Guard. They still have dedicated firefighters that learn both crash and structural firefighting and rescue. While I was a civilian firefighter on an air guard base there were several air guard firefighters that worked as firefighters on nearby city career fire departments.

            If the military is what YOU want then I support you 100%. Good luck and stay safe.
            Crazy, but that's how it goes
            Millions of people living as foes
            Maybe it's not too late
            To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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            • #7
              Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
              TK11,

              If the fire service is your ultimate goal I would suggest enlisting in the Air National Guard. They still have dedicated firefighters that learn both crash and structural firefighting and rescue. While I was a civilian firefighter on an air guard base there were several air guard firefighters that worked as firefighters on nearby city career fire departments. If the military is what YOU want then I support you 100%. Good luck and stay safe.

              I would second the Air Guard, unless you have a LOT of patience. (Ask he how I know) If you apply to a fire dept., often you can get a waiver or deferment that will sort of "hold your place in line" until you are done with training. As I said, you may get some points, but that will just get you ahead of those in YOUR bracket, NOT at the top of any list. I wouldn't necessarily take what a Jarhead said as gospel truth...



              Yeah, I'm stirring the pot, hope all you Gomers don't take it too personal, hehe.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TK11 View Post
                I'm 19, and I plan to become a firefighter/medic. Right now all I have is my emt license and some college. I'm going to work toward a degree in fire science and I planned to take medic this year. Fire 1 and 2 I haven't decided when I wanted to get that done yet but everyone is telling me to get medic first and save that for last because it's the most fun and enjoying part. Anyway I've also been thinking about the army. I've been thinking about active duty but I don't know if I'd want to put everything on hold for 4+ years. People have suggested the national guard to me which really seems appealing to me and I'm in the process of talking to a recruiter.

                Anywayyy... Just today someone had told me if I went through with the guard and and finished up my degree and certificates and everything while IN the guard, that I'd have around 4 years or whatever of being in the guard when I'm done with everything. I was told that if I did that, then tried to get a firefighting job with a department that they'd move me to "the top of their canadiate list" any truth to this? Or is it just bs?

                This is NOT the reason I want in the national guard, I've just always wanted to be part of the military. Someone told me this AFTER I had already been in contact with a recruiter. I'm also working/ plan to be working at an ambulance company throughout this.
                If you get hired you will probably have to take the courses that that FD has to give for recruits, regardless of what certificates you may have. We always send the new hires through all the courses like they didn't have anything. It make for a better firefighter. You may be lucky and get hired by the XZY FD on face value of your certificate, but they aren't too smart to do that.
                Stay Safe and Well Out There....

                Always remembering 9-11-2001 and 343+ Brothers

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                • #9
                  TK11,

                  Whether your certs, almost assuredly they will be IFSAC certs if you get them while in the Air Guard. help you at hiring time or not depends on the individual department requirements. My former career FD required FF1 and EMT-B when I got hired, now it is FF1 and paramedic preferred. There are some departments in my area that require a variety of things from FF1, FF2, Driver operator, Aerial operator, Associate Degree in Fire Science, Paramedic, EMT, Inspector, and so on. It is best to know the requirements for hire from any FD you are interested in and go from there.

                  Obviously once hired you will still have to go through their in house training academy.
                  Crazy, but that's how it goes
                  Millions of people living as foes
                  Maybe it's not too late
                  To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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