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    Originally posted by captnjak View Post
    I'm also in a position to go anytime I want.

    It's a good feeling.

    But I'm not ready to exercise that option just yet.

    I love the job. I think it's special. I also think some guys are TOO into the job. Family should come first. Balance is important in all things, IMO. I've seen guys treat the job like it's their number one priority. Some of those guys, not all, have lost a lot because of it.
    I agree, that some in fact do that. I guess they either don't understand or are not interested in that balance.

    In my current situation it is very advantageous financially to stay until age 56 and take full advantage of the drop in our pension system, to the tune of about a $200k lump sum. Doing that will be the difference of having to work or not when I do leave. I am going to try and stick it out, I will be 51 in 12 days.

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  • captnjak
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    At this point in my life, I am fully vested and old enough to retire, so therefore the importance of my job has disappeared from the radar screen. After nearly 26 years of it I am in a different place than I was when I hired on, and I am excited about the next chapter. Soon all of this will be ancient history.

    When I started here, I was just looking for a job. I was separating from the Army, had a wife and young child to care for and this is literally the first thing I found. I had never even considered the fire service before, but it seemed like a good job, so I took it. I have made a good living and appreciate that but in the end, that's really all it was ever about.
    I'm also in a position to go anytime I want.

    It's a good feeling.

    But I'm not ready to exercise that option just yet.

    I love the job. I think it's special. I also think some guys are TOO into the job. Family should come first. Balance is important in all things, IMO. I've seen guys treat the job like it's their number one priority. Some of those guys, not all, have lost a lot because of it.

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    Originally posted by captnjak View Post
    You are certainly entitled to your opinion concerning the job, your department, unions, etc. I agree that there is room for more than one point of view. None of those things matter on the fire floor unless you don't pull your share. That is the thing coworkers should worry about. The rest is secondary, IMO.

    I have to question your ranking of the job below 20th in importance in your life. Are you independently wealthy? It seems as if any job, even one you hate, would have some level of importance to you. Good jobs do not currently grow on trees.
    At this point in my life, I am fully vested and old enough to retire, so therefore the importance of my job has disappeared from the radar screen. After nearly 26 years of it I am in a different place than I was when I hired on, and I am excited about the next chapter. Soon all of this will be ancient history.

    When I started here, I was just looking for a job. I was separating from the Army, had a wife and young child to care for and this is literally the first thing I found. I had never even considered the fire service before, but it seemed like a good job, so I took it. I have made a good living and appreciate that but in the end, that's really all it was ever about.

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  • captnjak
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    Really? Thats a pretty big statement to make about someone you dont even know.

    Here is the thing, some people in this business see this as a job. Thats it. We work our shift and go home. We dont carry the job everywhere we go. It doesnt define us. I want people to know me as Ed, not "Firefighter Ed". Just Ed. There is so much in my life that is more important than this job, so much that this job wouldnt even make the top 20 list for me. I guess that rubs some of you guys the wrong way. Oh well. When the time comes I will leave my gear by the door and walk out, and that will be it for me. I will happily move on to the next phase of my life and not give this one another thought. I wont miss it either.
    You are certainly entitled to your opinion concerning the job, your department, unions, etc. I agree that there is room for more than one point of view. None of those things matter on the fire floor unless you don't pull your share. That is the thing coworkers should worry about. The rest is secondary, IMO.

    I have to question your ranking of the job below 20th in importance in your life. Are you independently wealthy? It seems as if any job, even one you hate, would have some level of importance to you. Good jobs do not currently grow on trees.

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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    It is not who I am either, it is however what I am. When I was on duty I gave all of me, whether that meant fire, EMS, PR, or even Fill the Boot. I did go the extra mile to go to outside classes and better myself because I wanted to be better than the minimum that was acceptable. I still do that today as a paid on call firefighter in the small rural village I live in. But you, an employee of the fire department, don't like firefighters like me because to you it is nothing more than a paycheck, to me it was my career. That doesn't mean I don't have other interests, or friends outside the fire service, because I do. Being a person with a singular focus in your life isn't healthy and I maintain a great balance.

    But you know what? If working in the fire service long enough to be thinking about retirement hasn't opened your eyes battling with me on the internet won't either. Enjoy your JOB, hopefully when you retire someone that looks at being a firefighter as a career will replace you.

    Have a nice life.
    That's the key word right there, balance. I do what works for me, you do what works for you. I am not sure what your comment about opening my eyes is about. what were they supposed to be opened to? Is that about not agreeing with the way I view this job? If so, what makes me wrong and you right? Is there not room for more than one way of thinking here?

    Why is it so important that someone who looks at this as a career replaces me?

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    Really? Thats a pretty big statement to make about someone you dont even know.

    Here is the thing, some people in this business see this as a job. Thats it. We work our shift and go home. We dont carry the job everywhere we go. It doesnt define us. I want people to know me as Ed, not "Firefighter Ed". Just Ed. There is so much in my life that is more important than this job, so much that this job wouldnt even make the top 20 list for me. I guess that rubs some of you guys the wrong way. Oh well. When the time comes I will leave my gear by the door and walk out, and that will be it for me. I will happily move on to the next phase of my life and not give this one another thought. I wont miss it either.
    It is not who I am either, it is however what I am. When I was on duty I gave all of me, whether that meant fire, EMS, PR, or even Fill the Boot. I did go the extra mile to go to outside classes and better myself because I wanted to be better than the minimum that was acceptable. I still do that today as a paid on call firefighter in the small rural village I live in. But you, an employee of the fire department, don't like firefighters like me because to you it is nothing more than a paycheck, to me it was my career. That doesn't mean I don't have other interests, or friends outside the fire service, because I do. Being a person with a singular focus in your life isn't healthy and I maintain a great balance.

    But you know what? If working in the fire service long enough to be thinking about retirement hasn't opened your eyes battling with me on the internet won't either. Enjoy your JOB, hopefully when you retire someone that looks at being a firefighter as a career will replace you.

    Have a nice life.

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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Well you have shown clearly that in your mind it is all about you. So I'm not surprised by your answer.
    Really? Thats a pretty big statement to make about someone you dont even know.

    Here is the thing, some people in this business see this as a job. Thats it. We work our shift and go home. We dont carry the job everywhere we go. It doesnt define us. I want people to know me as Ed, not "Firefighter Ed". Just Ed. There is so much in my life that is more important than this job, so much that this job wouldnt even make the top 20 list for me. I guess that rubs some of you guys the wrong way. Oh well. When the time comes I will leave my gear by the door and walk out, and that will be it for me. I will happily move on to the next phase of my life and not give this one another thought. I wont miss it either.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    I cant speak for everyone else, but I sure as heck will!
    Well you have shown clearly that in your mind it is all about you. So I'm not surprised by your answer.

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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Well then everyone else should have a good time.
    I cant speak for everyone else, but I sure as heck will!

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    Shouldnt be a problem.
    We dont have union retirement parties.
    I will pass on the one the department throws as well.
    Well then everyone else should have a good time.

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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    I'm relatively certain many you work with can't wait for you to leave either. When you do retire please don't be a hypocrite and go to the Union retirement party.
    Shouldnt be a problem.
    We dont have union retirement parties.
    I will pass on the one the department throws as well.
    Last edited by fasteddy64; 08-03-2015, 11:24 PM.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    Hurrah for you, I will see about getting you a medal.

    I am not pretending anything, this is absolutely about my disdain for unions.

    It's guys like you that make my retirement seem so far off.
    I cant wait to leave this job.
    I'm relatively certain many you work with can't wait for you to leave either. When you do retire please don't be a hypocrite and go to the Union retirement party.

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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Now what? I don't really care what you do or don't do. But don't pretend that this is about anything more than a continuation of your anti-Union crusade.
    Hurrah for you, I will see about getting you a medal.

    I am not pretending anything, this is absolutely about my disdain for unions.

    It's guys like you that make my retirement seem so far off.
    I cant wait to leave this job.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by fasteddy64 View Post
    I do opt out. Then stop crying about it because how is it hurting you?
    I haven't participated in over 20 years. Well la de freaking da. Let's hope no one in your family or someone you hold dear ever needs the help of MDA.
    I don't sit in recliners. True I suppose. You are probably more of a kitchen table or apparatus bay complainer.
    I have no "petty hatred" of the union. True, you have a major, all consuming, hatred for the Union.
    I just disagree with the situation, or am I not allowed to? Sure you can, but since you get to opt out, and haven't particiapted for 20 years, how is the fire department participating in fill the boot harming you in any way?
    I take it you are a "my way or the highway" type of guy. Nope. I just see that there is more than me in the world and the money raised by firefighters doing fill the boot funds research to either cure or eliminate MD. Seems like a noble cause and I am proud to be a part of it. I have gone back for 2 years since I retired to participate with my Union Brothers and Sisters and I will hopefully make it again this year.
    Now what? I don't really care what you do or don't do. But don't pretend that this is about anything more than a continuation of your anti-Union crusade.
    Last edited by FyredUp; 08-03-2015, 06:01 PM.

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  • Guest's Avatar
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Then opt out. Frankly, your beef with the Union needs to be put aside for the overall good the MDA does with the funds raised. In this case you sound like just another whiner who doesn't want to get out of the recliner. Further if the admin of your department approves this activity then it has the department stamp of approval. I would bet you would sure hate to have the story go to press that you ended fill the boot in your department over petty hatred of the Union.
    I do opt out.
    I haven't participated in over 20 years.
    I don't sit in recliners.
    I have no "petty hatred" of the union.
    I just disagree with the situation, or am I not allowed to?
    I take it you are a "my way or the highway" type of guy.

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