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  • Packing Personal Safety Rope?

    Alright guys, I need a little help. Long story short, I picked up 50' of rope today and was trying to find a "pouch" of some sort to throw in my bunker pants pocket to hold it all neatly and after a few hours of trying to find something to use I finally came up with an idea. I took some 20 year old, beat all to hell bunker pants that I had in storage and cut one of the cargo pockets out. Perfect solution!

    Well... now I need to find a way to "load" the bag with the rope that will work every time I need to use it (which hopefully will just be for training).

    What I've done is coiled the rope inside the bag and attached a 'biner to one end. I keep this end hanging slightly out of the pouch and when I need to use it, I just pull the pouch out, grab the 'biner and throw the pouch. The rope kinda half-*** uncoils but ends up knotted/kinked all to hell and doesn't seem to want to come out clean. I've tried a couple methods of loading but nothing I've tried seems to work all that great.

    Does anyone have any experience in loading up rope like this and would you be willing to help a rookie out with learning the technique? Does anyone else even bother carrying this stuff? I'll be back at class on Monday so I'm gonna bring it up to my instructor and see if he can offer up any advice but I'd like to get it figured out soon so I can practice using it over the weekend while I'm relatively free.

    Any input is appreciated!

  • #2
    Rather than coil the rope try just putting one end in the bottom of the bag, then just with one hand in the bag, and the other hand holding the rope outside the bag use a stripping motion to naturally load the rope into the bag. Let the rope coil and lay in the bag naturally, and it'll come out the same way it went it. That is how we load out main and belay rope bags.

    Or,

    I keep a 25'er (of rope) in my pants, and what I've done it to just keep doubling it over on itself unfil it was a managable size, then I secured it with two peices of dental floss. If I need it I pull it out, and snap the floss by giving a fold a yank. Floss snaps easily.

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    • #3
      I realize now that I have a few hours of sleep behind me just how stupid the question sounded haha My apologies.

      I'm guessing the way you're describing would result in something similar to flaking hose out in a bed. Basically just back and forth until the rope is loaded Instead of trying to coil it up in the bag. Did I understand you correctly? That actually makes a lot more sense than the way I was approaching it.
      Last edited by JM560; 03-13-2015, 12:29 PM. Reason: auto correct sucks

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      • #4
        Actually, no. Basically just stuff the rope in the bag as you would stuff a sleeping bag in a stuff bag. It'll come out the reverse of how it went in. It won't look pretty or even, but it'll come out right.

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        • #5
          Watch how this guy packs the rope about 2/3 through this (unrelated) video. http://youtu.be/2zJOL40GOtc

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          • #6
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwaR2HjnJU

            This was the next one up after the one you linked and deals specifically with reloading a throw rope. Plus it's a bit shorter of a vid too.

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            • #7
              With the NYS bailout law, there are plenty of "bailout bags" available. I'll let you do your own search, rather than appear to advertise any one vendor.

              Most have room not only for 50' of rope, but for a 'biner, a descender, and a hook. And they've got loops and stuff to hook to an air pack or tool belt.

              The comments already given are accurate for loading the rope.

              Heck, I even made "rope" bags for our forestry hose so they could be loaded the same way. It's a lot easier than trying to control a 100' length of that skinny stuff...
              Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

              Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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              • #8
                Either do as recommended and just stuff the bag - or it is amazing the number of people who do not know how to coil things so they come out straight. The concept applies to rope, but is even more noticeable on wire, garden or booster line, and hydraulic lines for auto extrication and such.

                As easy as it is, I think its gonna be hard to explain..... start with a garden hose as it is to see the effect, big enough to not coil into a giant knot if you do it wrong, and easy to stretch back out if you do.

                Typically, most right handed people will pull from the right to form a loop and continue to repeat that process. With every loop, you also get a rotation so when you grab the end and pull it out straight you get no reverse rotation and a kink for every loop.

                If you will alternate between a normal loop - with the running end coming off the top of the coil and then a reversed loop - one with the running end bottom of the loop you still get a rotation on every loop, but they are opposite so when you pull it out straight, it is straight and VIOLA - no kinks.

                Think of a clove hitch - reversed loops stacked on top of themselves.

                You may wanna think your plan out a bit more though, not sure it's gonna work out for you as described - unless you left some stuff out.
                Last edited by MemphisE34a; 03-15-2015, 01:05 AM.
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