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Glendale Fire: EMS Assault incident?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by islandfire03 View Post
    the event happened in October
    They've had several months to get this together.

    If the city attorneys are smart they will settle out of court as this has already played out in the press and the court of public opinion. With the large crowd of bystanders and family members there will be plenty of witnesses to call in front of the jury.
    All they will need is to have the jury show the video played on a large screen with the sound turned up.
    Stick a fork in them they are done.
    could easily go into 7 figure judgement.
    7 figures??????????????????????

    For what????????????????

    Getting yelled at??????????????????????????

    Where are the damages??????????????????????????

    I must have missed the part of the video where the FD permanently disabled/disfigured someone. Because that's what it will take to get millions.

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    • #32
      The firefighters lost their professionalism and cool that day.
      Would you want to take this to a jury trial where a group of the victims peers could decide to give him many millions of dollars to send a message to the city and fire dept that they believe this was inappropriate behavior on the part of city employees?

      You do remember that FF's are city employees right??? & that as such you work for the taxpayers who just watched you out of control and will see that video as members of the jury.


      there are several news reports with photos of the pt with facial injuries out there. there was one linked here on firehouse news with the parents and it had photos.
      Last edited by islandfire03; 03-12-2015, 08:59 AM. Reason: spelling correction

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      • #33
        Originally posted by islandfire03 View Post
        The firefighters lost their professionalism and cool that day.
        Would you want to take this to a jury trial where a group of the victims peers could decide to give him many millions of dollars to send a message to the city and fire dept that they believe this was inappropriate behavior on the part of city employees?

        You do remember that FF's are city employees right??? & that as such you work for the taxpayers who just watched you out of control and will see that video as members of the jury.


        there are several news reports with photos of the pt with facial injuries out there. there was one linked here on firehouse news with the parents and it had photos.
        If there are injuries an award might be appropriate. But not if the injuries occurred while firefighters defended themselves. You just don't get millions of dollars because a city employee drops a couple of F bombs on you. If a jury gave millions a judge would likely reduce the award. Or city would win on appeal.

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        • #34
          We will just have to agree to disagree on how big the liability is on this one case.

          Last time I was on Jury duty I was sitting in the court room waiting for the previous trial to end. The complainants attorney asked for $650 k in damages and expenses. The jury awarded 1.2 million which was awarded by the judge against a city for negligence in not filling in a pothole which caused an accident.

          The victim in that case originally asked the city to replace her totaled new car and pay for her medical bills. The city's reply was take us to court.

          They could have gotten out for less than $50 k but chose to be the bully

          BAMM , the jury thought it was time to send the city a message.

          The city did appeal to the appellate court and lost.

          never try to second guess a jury in a case like this.

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          • #35
            I think the city is going to pay big time for this incident.

            This is going to be more about perception than facts, and the language used by the members defiantly gives the perception that they are angry and being far more physical than necessary. The jury will, IMO, sense that anger, or at least perceive a level and anger, and that will translate to a big payday for the plantiff.
            Train to fight the fires you fight.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by islandfire03 View Post
              We will just have to agree to disagree on how big the liability is on this one case.

              Last time I was on Jury duty I was sitting in the court room waiting for the previous trial to end. The complainants attorney asked for $650 k in damages and expenses. The jury awarded 1.2 million which was awarded by the judge against a city for negligence in not filling in a pothole which caused an accident.

              The victim in that case originally asked the city to replace her totaled new car and pay for her medical bills. The city's reply was take us to court.

              They could have gotten out for less than $50 k but chose to be the bully

              BAMM , the jury thought it was time to send the city a message.

              The city did appeal to the appellate court and lost.

              never try to second guess a jury in a case like this.
              This case involved negligence. We don't know that the Glendale case did.

              This case involved an accident with property damage. The Glendale case did not.

              This case involved personal injury. We don't know that the Glendale case did.

              Juries are "second-guessed" all the time. Awards are reduced regularly.

              Damages are generally either compensatory ("repay me what you cost me"), or punitive ("you deserve financial punishment for what you did") in nature. Where are the damages to the plaintiff? What is the dollar value of a temper tantrum?

              Time will tell. I don't see millions here.

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              • #37
                Thank you. For some reason I thought this had just happened. Four or five months is enough time to bring forth a lawsuit with all the filings and notifications required ... even in the state of California. Thank you for the corrections. IMHO it is sad when human beings on both/all sides are just having a bad day and the tax payers may get left holding the $bag$ ... $big time$ Just me. HB of CJ (old coot)

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