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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Conrad427,

    If the "feel guilty" comment is directed at me all I can say is why? I am a consumer, but I have reclaimed, recycled and reused long before it was cool or attached to some political agenda. I am not so blind that I can't see that this planet is being left to my kids and the damage we do will have to be sorted out and managed by them. The truth is simply that if we continue as we are we will eventually kill the planet we live on.
    Same here. We use things till they are really worthless. Our two cars replaced ones that were ten years old.

    We use reusable shopping bags at the store. Many other items.

    We were doing that way before it was fashionable.

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  • FyredUp
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    Conrad427,

    If the "feel guilty" comment is directed at me all I can say is why? I am a consumer, but I have reclaimed, recycled and reused long before it was cool or attached to some political agenda. I am not so blind that I can't see that this planet is being left to my kids and the damage we do will have to be sorted out and managed by them. The truth is simply that if we continue as we are we will eventually kill the planet we live on.

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Republicans are not for dirty water and air. They are for reasonable environmental regulations understanding that there is abalance between cost and a reasonably clean environment.
    More nonsense. Please link where Republicans have stated they are for reasonable environmental regulations.


    Business won't restrict pollution unless forced. That much we know.

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  • conrad427
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    You want to make a difference? Feel guilty that we are a virus on the planet and are poisoning her?

    Stop consuming.

    We can do better as a race, thats for sure, but I dont feel guilty for being alive like some of you seem to be.

    The anger and hysteria from both sides of the argument dont do any good at all. Just line the pockets of the vultures from both factions.

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Okay time for some good old fashioned sarcasm.

    Last week it was colder than normal...must be proof that global warming doesn't exist.

    Holy SCHIIT!! It is supposed to be in the 50's next week...Must be proof that global warming exists.


    Honestly, anyone that can't see humans are poisoning the planet is really too dumb to be in a serious discussion about global warming. What ultimate good comes from jobs created by industries destroying the planet?
    You call it what you will. I call it a by-product of our modern, industrial society.

    Do I have an issue with reasonable regulations to limit pollution to reasonable levels? No. But many on the left are simply looking for unreasonable levels of pollution reduction at tremendous economic costs to both businesses, and in the end, society overall.

    Republicans are not for dirty water and air. They are for reasonable environmental regulations understanding that there is abalance between cost and a reasonably clean environment.
    Last edited by LaFireEducator; 03-07-2015, 09:50 AM.

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  • conrad427
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    Yeah, I have had a pretty good winter. Hope my winter wheat makes it.

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  • WVFD705
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    Originally posted by NCFF2014 View Post
    Snow doesn't really cause THAT many problems for us in my part of North Carolina. The bigger weather-related issue that we have usually occurs in the spring and summer: severe thunderstorms (with an occasional tornado). We'll run a few extra calls when it snows. When we get a nasty storm, we won't see the station. Wrecks, power lines down, and either fighting lightning-related fires or backfilling other parts of the city that have their own fires. Never seen this place as chaotic as when a nasty boomer comes in and wallops us.
    We've been in a severe drought for a number of years. I'm wondering if the abundance of moisture we've been seeing will result in more severe weather as spring progresses. The last couple of years, we've had very few supercells and often only small storms with dry lightning. I would like to see us get the rain, but I wouldn't complain if it wasn't in the form of severe weather.

    This year looks to be probably the best wheat crop I've ever had. If we do have any significant thunderstorms, I'm going to panic.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
    This is equivalent to me saying that world hunger doesn't exist because I just ate dinner.



    May I introduce you to LAFE.
    You did notice I mentioned sarcasm...

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Last week it was colder than normal...must be proof that global warming doesn't exist.
    This is equivalent to me saying that world hunger doesn't exist because I just ate dinner.

    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Honestly, anyone that can't see humans are poisoning the planet is really too dumb to be in a serious discussion about global warming. What ultimate good comes from jobs created by industries destroying the planet?
    May I introduce you to LAFE.

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  • FyredUp
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    Okay time for some good old fashioned sarcasm.

    Last week it was colder than normal...must be proof that global warming doesn't exist.

    Holy SCHIIT!! It is supposed to be in the 50's next week...Must be proof that global warming exists.


    Honestly, anyone that can't see humans are poisoning the planet is really too dumb to be in a serious discussion about global warming. What ultimate good comes from jobs created by industries destroying the planet?

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  • captnjak
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Some level of pollution is part of an industrial society unless you are willing to endure an economically non-viable level of costs to mitigate that pollution, and the left is simply not willing to accept that. The right understands that there are environmental cost associated with industry and that it is unrealistic to eliminate all pollution unless you put unreasonable cost burdens onto those businesses.

    The simple fact is that wind, solar and most renewable energy sources will never replace hydrocarbon based energy sources and the left seems to simply not accept those facts. the Keystone Pipeline, the elimination of fracking in some states and the attempts to almost eliminate coal as a low-cost energy source are examples of their extremism on the anti-fossil fuel front.
    It is clearly your opinion that those sources will never replace fossil fuels, but let's stop short of calling it fact. And NONE of this is simple. What is a fact is that there is a finite amount of those fossil fuels. When they run out I assure you some other source(s) will replace them.

    You seem concerned about the amount of money business would have to spend to eliminate (to reduce is more realistic) pollution. Pollution does not just come from business and industry. We are all guilty. As a society we want what we want and damn the consequences. At some point we will pay the price if we don't at least begin to try to solve these problems. Technology can allow us to become both more efficient in how we use fuel and less harmful to the environment as we do so. It's an investment that we can't afford not to make. Big business won't do it unless they are forced to or provided with incentives. Of course, an incentive policy will be politicized which will water it down to the point of failure. Solandra anyone?

    What the Obama administration has done to coal is disgraceful.

    If the Keystone pipeline is built it should be entirely paid for by the energy companies and there should be market rate leasing fees paid to whoever owns the land involved (whether public or private). The real question is why haven't they just built more pipelines and refineries in Canada?

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    Well I see this is getting nowhere. Again.

    Have a great weekend.
    True, my arguments are based on facts, your arguments are not.

    You have a great weekend as well.

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  • conrad427
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    Originally posted by captnjak View Post
    No doubt there is some political influence due to funding issues. But real science does not base conclusions on this influence. I don't know how us lay people are supposed to know which is real and which is politcal-based gibberish.
    Thats the rub for me. All you have to do is slap the word science on a bottle of bacteria and suddenly you get a probiotic.

    My purely UN scientific opinion is that there is probably more agenda based "science" than "pure" science. Or we could just do what Al Gore tells us to, as long as the check is good.

    And TV evangelists have a bad rap. Sheesh!

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  • LaFireEducator
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    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
    Which has nothing to do with the process of eminent domain being used to allow a private foreign corporation to seize the private property of Americans on US soil.

    I am not concerned with the safety or environmental aspects of the project.
    Well I see this is getting nowhere. Again.

    Have a great weekend.

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
    The reason it runs to the Gulf is .... (wait for it) ...... is that is where the bulk of the US's refining capability is located. Makes sense.

    There have been many attempts to build refineries in other places that have been ..... (wait for it) .... squashed by the left and the environmental army, even though increasing refining capacity makes perfect economic sense.
    Which has nothing to do with the process of eminent domain being used to allow a private foreign corporation to seize the private property of Americans on US soil.

    I am not concerned with the safety or environmental aspects of the project.

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