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  • Junior firefighter and radios

    This is my first post, so don't be to hurst on me. I just turned 17 and I'm a volunteer at a local fire station. I'm the only junior firefighter at my station and I go all calls. My chief told me I could buy my own pager and I figured since I got to for a pager I might as well buy my own radio. I use different people radios when we on scenes. I'm kinda scared about buying a radio and I don't know if my Cheif would agree with me buying a radio for calls. I have my CRP and I'm getting Fire responder.

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    If your making all the calls already why are you worried about buying a pager or radio ? When you say radio I assume your talking about a portable radio that you can talk on. Do you need to talk to people when your on a scene ? If so then your department should provide you with a radio. I think your wasting your money buying a pager or radio. You should check with your county and state law's and regulations to see if you can even have a radio.

    just my opinion

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    • #3
      hey don't be "hurst" on him.
      ?

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      • #4
        If a call goes out, I'm allowed to ride along in any truck. When we on a scene, I sometime do the pager work, direct traffic and help out. My department provides you a radio when you turn 18 and my next birthday is a year from now. I been with the department for a year now.

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        • #5
          Sounds more like you're a "firefighter in training" than the junior firefighter most folks think of.

          Assuming that you need a radio to do what you're allowed to do, and if you can afford it, fine. If you can wait, let the FD foot the bill. Sounds like they've got the resources.

          I'll also assume that you're learning radio discipline. Far too many firefighters (and folks in other professions) seem to think that if they've got a radio, they've got to talk on it.

          However, the most important factor is the one you mentioned - are you allowed to have your own personal radio? If so, you'll need the permission of the license holder to use it (transmit, anyhow). You'll also be responsible for ensuring that it is properly programmed, as well as for any repairs.

          I'd wait.
          Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

          Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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          • #6
            I want to convince my Chief that it can be beneficial for my having my own radio

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            • #7
              There several threads on this subject in the volunteer, junior section several groups below this group.


              As far as you buying a pager or radio, I would say no. Let the fd supply that to you. Beside usually juniors don't really have a need for a two way portable radio.
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              • #8
                I would suggest learning other aspects of firefighting prior to mastering the radio
                Let it ride
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                • #9
                  Frankly, if the chief told me I had to buy my own pager and/or my own radio, I would tell him, well, if telepathy lets me know we have a call I will be there, otherwise I guess not.

                  Seriously, how damn stupid is it that you have to buy your own pager? And further if he won't assiign you a pager what makes you think he would approve of you buying a radio? Who will carry the license for YOUR personally owned radio?
                  Last edited by FyredUp; 09-24-2013, 12:13 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Piggy-backing on what others have said here, what do you have to offer that makes it necessary for you to have 2-way radio communications prior to your department issuing you a portable?

                    It's kinda like the "ace" volunteer (we call them "blue-lighters" in this part of the world) who drives a 1978 rusted-out piece of junk and can barely pay their bills yet they have about $6000 in LED lighting and other warning devices on it. The best part about it is that the "ace" volunteer has no certifications (and therefore cannot do anything once he arrives) yet has a front-row seat to watch (i.e. not participate) all the action.

                    In most places, there is a safe location for this person to be: the "crowd" side of the fire line tape.

                    Sit back, enjoy the opportunity to learn from your fellow firefighters, stay out of harm's way, and do not get hurt. Prove yourself now by demonstrating maturity so when you turn 18, your chief will be more than willing to equip you to handle your department's business.
                    Last edited by dfwfirefighter; 09-24-2013, 01:51 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by A.S.F.D 27 View Post
                      If your making all the calls already why are you worried about buying a pager or radio ? When you say radio I assume your talking about a portable radio that you can talk on. Do you need to talk to people when your on a scene ? If so then your department should provide you with a radio. I think your wasting your money buying a pager or radio. You should check with your county and state law's and regulations to see if you can even have a radio.

                      just my opinion
                      If you're serious about being a firefighter, there's far better things you can spend your money on then a pager and a radio that the department will supply you in a year. Take that money and buy yourself some personal tools/gear etc. A good set of gloves, some hand tools for your pockets, webbing, possibly a gut belt, etc etc. The list could go on and on. For the price of a radio and a pager, (that you said will be issued to you in a year anyway), you can outfit yourself with some damn good personal equipment for a fraction of the cost.
                      "A fire department that writes off civilians faster than an express line of 6 reasons or less is not progressive, it's dangerous, because it's run by fear. Fear does not save lives, it endangers them." -- Lt. Ray McCormack FDNY

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dfwfirefighter View Post
                        Piggy-backing on what others have said here, why do you have to offer that makes it necessary for you to have 2-way radio communications prior to your department issuing you a portable?

                        It's kinda like the "ace" volunteer (we call them "blue-lighters" in this part of the world) who drive a 1978 rusted-out piece of junk and can barely pay their bills yet they have about $6000 in LED lighting and other warning devices on it. The best part about it is that the "ace" volunteer has no certifications (and therefore cannot do anything once he arrives) yet has a front-row seat to watch (i.e. not participate) all the action.

                        In most places , there is a safe location for this person to be: the "crowd" side of the fire line tape.

                        Sit back, enjoy the opportunity to learn from your fellow firefighters, stay out of harm's way, and do not get hurt. Prove yourself now by demonstrating maturity so when you turn 18, your chief will be more than willing to equip you to handle your department's business.
                        Great post. Especially the last paragraph. Why is it so many young people that want to be in this profession want to run before they have even learned to crawl?
                        Crazy, but that's how it goes
                        Millions of people living as foes
                        Maybe it's not too late
                        To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                        • #13
                          So how do you know when there is a call?

                          First of all a communications device should be an issued item, not something that anyone has to purchase. My recommendation would to not purchase a pager or a radio, especially if you don't know the department's policy on juniors using a radio as a junior.

                          It sounds like that if the Chief felt there was a need for you to have a pager or a radio, the department policy would allow one to be issued to you.

                          Both of my current departments issue a radio to junior members.
                          Train to fight the fires you fight.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LaFireEducator View Post
                            First of all a communications device should be an issued item, not something that anyone has to purchase.
                            The fire department bought the first Plectrons here. Before that they bought three scanners for the three white hats. Everyone else either had their own scanner or had to listen for the fire siren (and both).

                            Our firefighters bought their own pagers at first (as a couple of group buys). The money simply wasn't there for the fire district or the fire department to buy pagers.

                            Eventually, all of the pagers were "bought back" by the fire district and are now issued to the members.

                            So I can understand how a department with limited resources (another topic entirely) may be reluctant (or unable) to issue pagers and/or portable radios to those who need or desire them.
                            Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

                            Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tree68 View Post
                              The fire department bought the first Plectrons here. Before that they bought three scanners for the three white hats. Everyone else either had their own scanner or had to listen for the fire siren (and both).

                              Our firefighters bought their own pagers at first (as a couple of group buys). The money simply wasn't there for the fire district or the fire department to buy pagers.

                              Eventually, all of the pagers were "bought back" by the fire district and are now issued to the members.

                              So I can understand how a department with limited resources (another topic entirely) may be reluctant (or unable) to issue pagers and/or portable radios to those who need or desire them.
                              We had fire phones in several homes where they could set off the fire siren when they received a call. The siren was replaced for activating volunteers when the FD bought the first pagers about 15 years ago.

                              My kid says it was before that so I will say he is correct and say it was 91 or 92.

                              I'm sorry, but I just can't picture myself buying a pager or radio for use at a fire department. If the best they could afford was the fire siren than that is just what it is.
                              Last edited by FyredUp; 09-24-2013, 05:27 PM.
                              Crazy, but that's how it goes
                              Millions of people living as foes
                              Maybe it's not too late
                              To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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