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  • #16
    It's pretty lame that you have all of these college's going by different standards and some even misleading you about their accreditation. College should be college...period. Cost alone had me leaning towards Columbia Southern over UMUC but after some of your replies I'll be reconsidering that

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    • #17
      Originally posted by monsta0311 View Post
      It's pretty lame that you have all of these college's going by different standards and some even misleading you about their accreditation. College should be college...period. Cost alone had me leaning towards Columbia Southern over UMUC but after some of your replies I'll be reconsidering that
      Yeah by paying the little extra money might save you a big headache in the end. Especially if you ever try and transfer and get something more than a bachelors degree.

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      • #18
        You might conact a couple of four year name colleges in your area and see which schools they will accept transfer hours from
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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        • #19
          Originally posted by monsta0311 View Post
          It's pretty lame that you have all of these college's going by different standards and some even misleading you about their accreditation. College should be college...period. Cost alone had me leaning towards Columbia Southern over UMUC but after some of your replies I'll be reconsidering that
          Yeah, stay away from CSU man. That's where I'm at. But I did get good news about an alternative to my situation that could work out better in the long run. It just means I'd have one useless degree paid for by the military and one paid for later by hopefully the employer that hires me, as TA is one benefit I'm looking for. I do want to move on to a master's and perhaps a PhD one day as well.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by jtucker1384 View Post
            I would get some more info about their accreditation from somewhere besides the school itself. Sometime they deceive people by saying they are regionally accredited when they are not. If you are in the military go talk to the college office and they will be able to give you the best non bias info on the colleges. Otherwise if you are not in the military I would find and advisor on the situation. I would also google the school and see what other people are saying about it.
            Yeah, I am going to the T&E building on Monday to talk to a college advisor. Of course, they're the ones that told me CSU would be ok, as long as I finished my degree there and got my graduate degree there as well. Lessons learned and they don't come cheap. At least it was Uncle Sam's dime and not mine I guess, though technically, it is my TA that I have earned, so I guess it is my money afterall. I'm really interested in the program at Fayetteville that my friend told me about. I just have to see if I can get accepted there and how much transfer credit they'll give me. At least I have options now.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by hwoods View Post
              (Side Note-Mike... Missed you at the CFSI Bash..........
              Sorry, was hanging out in the lobby and kept running into people.

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              • #22
                Might check western illnois university distance learning

                And grand canyon college


                And check this;;;;

                http://www.usfa.dhs.gov/nfa/higher_e...feshe_ddp.shtm
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                • #23
                  I received my B.S. in Occupational Safety & Health; concentration Fire Science from CSU in Oct 2009. This is all very discouraging to hear...

                  How do some fire departments not recognize this when CSU is endorsed by FDNY and some other major departments (Can't find the info now, but used to show if you worked for FDNY and other big city depts you got discounts).

                  In this case, would any of you recommend seeing what would transfer to say EKU and try to finish another bachelors there?

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                  • #24
                    Would only say if you want a more advanced degree or want to be a chief officer, or sounds like if you want to EFO they may not take it
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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                    • #25
                      I am in the current hiring process for several departments, one especially (Charlotte) offers higher salary to those with a BS degree (as KyHunter stated). I would never want to be Chief as there is too much political/headaches that go along with that, maybe a training officer at best. Maybe if I transferred my credits to EKU, I could receive a more well accredited degree without having to take too many classes. I only took 10 classes at CSU as I did my other classes at an in-state university.

                      What is EFO?

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                      • #26
                        CSU answers

                        Let me first say that I am attending CSU to finish my Bachelor's degree. The most important issue to note is that CSU is a nationally accredited college. Which means that the Department of Education recognizes the degree's as "college" degree's. If the VA pays for it, it is "good to go" for some people and agencies. The most important part of the equation is to ensure that your agency or potential agency recognizes the degree. Check on the CSU website at the learning partners page, this will tell you some of the corporations that accept it. The next step, is to call the HR office of the city or corporation you are attempting to apply for. The FD I work accepts degrees from CSU, and I get a substantial pay raise for having a bachelors. Secondly, I finished my Associates from a regionally accredited school and I will be the first to say that CSU's curriculum is nowhere near as hard as my Associates degree program. One of the replying posters stated that you can't transfer a CSU degree to a regionally accredited Master's program. This is not true, you just have to shop around. I finish my Bachelors within the next couple of months and I have been in contact with four major "brick and mortar" schools and only one of the four has said they will not accept a "nationally accredited" degree, which was Penn State. Now my disclaimer to the last sentence, I have not applied for these programs as of yet. I need to take the GRE and finish my last two classes, so the universities I have spoken to may do an "about face" and say no. I know without a doubt Grand Canyon University will accept a Bachelors from CSU though. A close friend just transferred from CSU with a B.A. and is now in the GCU masters program.

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                        • #27
                          The NFA accepts CSU graduates now
                          Last edited by Flash123; 03-27-2013, 11:39 AM.

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                          • #28
                            It does now.

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                            • #29
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