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  • mikeyboy
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    My Axe...

    My Department has the Fire Axe on our Truck Company. We carry both the 36" and the 32" handles. I am 6' 2" without boots, and I am guessing about 6' 5" or so in Turnout Boots so the 36" works well for me. We have leather sheaths for all of our axes.

    The times I have used it, it has worked flawlessly... And yes, it goes inside with me.

    The decision on FyredUp's Captain may be from the safety rating of a fiberglass handle. Fire Axe Inc. is listing their fiberglass handle as having a 1,200 lb. rating. Using simple math, that is at least a safety margin of 3:1 at a minimum. Much like we use in Swiftwater Rescue Operations. In my case, that is a safety factor of 4:1; that seems pretty safe.

    I'm not jumping into the debate, just posting a fact I found. If the wood handle is placed flat against the anchor I could see it "possibly" failing. If it is placed with the rounded area against the anchor then i could see it being more secure. Similar to a 2x4; use it flat and the load rating is a couple hundred lbs. but if you stand it up the capability increases to half a ton or so. Maintain your tools and they are less likely to fail anyways.....
    Last edited by mikeyboy; 12-08-2010, 01:21 PM. Reason: it's fail, not fair... lol.

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  • Bones42
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    I carry a Pry-Axe. Gives a few options for it's use. No, I would not substitute a pry-axe for a regular axe when chopping through a roof...but carrying inside and using....yup.

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  • FyredUp
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    I will ask him on my next work day what criteria he used to determine that the plastic handled axe was a better choice than a wood handled axe. I apologize for not having that data at my disposal. But then again I am not claiming to be an expert on bail out and self rescue. I and many in our area, and beyond, do consider him an expert.

    And the proper color for the handle is YELLOW. GEEZ, everyone knows that!!

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  • snowball
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    Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Yes, I understand that. You just made it sound like you had all this rock hard, research based evidence to prove your point.
    He proved that his Captain IS the most interesting man alive. Stay thirsty my friends.

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  • GTRider245
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    I don't know what testing process he used to determine the "plastic" handled axe was superior. But once again I can tell you I have seen several broken wooden handles over the course of my career and I have NEVER seen a broken plastic handled axe.

    You can use whatever you choose, it doesn't affect me in the least. I will trust MY Captain who has years invested in learning about and then training our entire fire department on bail out and self rescue techniques.
    Yes, I understand that. You just made it sound like you had all this rock hard, research based evidence to prove your point.

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  • Dirty Axe
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    With my department we can choose whatever tool we want going in. I bought two of my own tools; the flat head, 8lb Fire Axe, as well as a FireMaxx. Generally on the small residential fires we get, I go in with my FireMaxx and leave the Fire Axe in the truck. I have the FireMaxx and a sheath and wear it on its own tactical belt. Works well.

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  • snowball
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    I've seen both broken wood axe handles and plastic ones with a 90deg bend in it. Ball bearings are not even firefighter proof.

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  • FyredUp
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    Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
    Did he break a wooden handled axe while using one as a bailout anchor?
    I don't know what testing process he used to determine the "plastic" handled axe was superior. But once again I can tell you I have seen several broken wooden handles over the course of my career and I have NEVER seen a broken plastic handled axe.

    You can use whatever you choose, it doesn't affect me in the least. I will trust MY Captain who has years invested in learning about and then training our entire fire department on bail out and self rescue techniques.

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  • ColoradoDave
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    ..................
    Last edited by ColoradoDave; 02-13-2013, 12:57 PM.

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  • GTRider245
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    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    Is this the tool you're talking about, or are you talking about something else? http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr..._purpose_tool/
    Correct, that's the one.

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  • GTRider245
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    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    And again, if that is what YOU want to do it makes absolutely no difference to me at all.

    My usage of the the "plastic" handled axe is based on research and testing by my Captain, not anecdotal evidence.
    Did he break a wooden handled axe while using one as a bailout anchor?

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  • CaptOldTimer
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    I carried a crash axe on a belt for years.

    Came in handy more than once.

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  • JJR512
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    Originally posted by GTRider245 View Post
    If I had to spend the money on this kind of tool for personal use, I would go with an 8 lb. TNT tool. More so if your department doesn't carry them on the trucks.
    Is this the tool you're talking about, or are you talking about something else? http://www.thefirestore.com/store/pr..._purpose_tool/

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  • EngineCO38
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    Originally posted by LVFD301 View Post
    What color should the axe be?

    We all know that Blue Fire Engines work better than Red, as does Yellow, but slime lime engines don't work as well as red. Does this transfer to tools also?
    Haha, I see watcha did there

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  • LVFD301
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    What color should the axe be?

    We all know that Blue Fire Engines work better than Red, as does Yellow, but slime lime engines don't work as well as red. Does this transfer to tools also?

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