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  • shmarleybarlow
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    Originally posted by Capt387 View Post
    I assume you are referring to NFPA here. have you ever looked at who is on a NFPA committee? In the 2007 revision of 1971 (structural gear standard) there were 12 fire service members on the panel. Wanna change things? Sign up, I am sure you can help.
    Yes and yes.

    Sign up? Not hardly. "My help" would hardly be constructive (as far as they're concerned). Along that line of thinking, that "help" aka cutting through all their "practical" BS, would result in them almost ceasing to exist. But I bet they'll take me right in, lol. I'll have no part of it.

    I'm anticipating the "be the change you want to see in the world", type quotes coming...

    Are you defending the NFPA? Just curious...as that usually speaks volumes in itself.

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  • SkullKrusher2010
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    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    And here I thought that what I wrote was probably the funniest thing I've ever written on these forums...I didn't realize anyone was actually going to take that seriously.
    Serious question meant for a serious answer..

    You do know that they throw firefighters into the same correctional facility as those malcontents and scofflaws that remove mattress tags .. SOMETHING has to be done about people like this!

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  • JJR512
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    Originally posted by SkullKrusher2010 View Post
    I was wondering the same about the tag on the rear brim.. I just left it on and masked it off.. would rather of taken it off but I don't want it to be an issue with my Chief.. Is it possible to get a replacement sticker??
    And here I thought that what I wrote was probably the funniest thing I've ever written on these forums...I didn't realize anyone was actually going to take that seriously.

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  • Capt387
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    Originally posted by shmarleybarlow View Post
    They are however, a bunch of civilian pencil pushing statistic crunchers that often lack the ability to use common sense.
    I assume you are referring to NFPA here. have you ever looked at who is on a NFPA committee? In the 2007 revision of 1971 (structural gear standard) there were 12 fire service members on the panel. Wanna change things? Sign up, I am sure you can help.

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  • Capt387
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Ummn,OSHA? And YES,they CAN! T.C.
    That's the one. Thank you T.C.

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  • WD6956
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    Originally posted by SkullKrusher2010 View Post
    I was wondering the same about the tag on the rear brim.. I just left it on and masked it off.. would rather of taken it off but I don't want it to be an issue with my Chief.. Is it possible to get a replacement sticker??

    MSA will not sell the stickers. And the sticker on the rear Brim is not the one that really matters. Inside the helmet is a smaller sticker with the NFPA or OSHA cert. They put that sticker inside the helmet so it never gets damaged.

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  • SkullKrusher2010
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    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    Yes. The FBI has a special division, the Tag Removal Division (that's TARD for short) that investigates things like this. The TARDs normally handle mattress tag removals, but they have a SWAT team for more egregious tag removals like those from safety helmets. Don't mess with the TARDs, they'll get you every time.
    I was wondering the same about the tag on the rear brim.. I just left it on and masked it off.. would rather of taken it off but I don't want it to be an issue with my Chief.. Is it possible to get a replacement sticker??

    I just put the ratchet back in my helmet..Not that hard since it takes all of 1 minute to snap it back in.. I liked how it fit with the ratchet off and the ear flaps folded under.. Fit my SCBA mask perfectly also in the "deployed" position with the flaps out.. I also think that the ratchet sits too close to the bottom of my skull and almost on my neck.. almost uncomfortable. I did remove the pad at the top of the suspension. Who's bright idea was it to put that fluff in there!? Not needed at all...

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  • shmarleybarlow
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Ummn,OSHA? And YES,they CAN! T.C.
    Oh yes, now that four letter word can!

    I'm so used to that other four letter card being thrown around here ("Not for practical application). this four letter word business can be tricky

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  • JJR512
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    Originally posted by sdfd504 View Post
    What happens when the label that has the model number of the helmet comes off even though it says do not remove this sticker? Do you get in trouble for doing that too?
    Yes. The FBI has a special division, the Tag Removal Division (that's TARD for short) that investigates things like this. The TARDs normally handle mattress tag removals, but they have a SWAT team for more egregious tag removals like those from safety helmets. Don't mess with the TARDs, they'll get you every time.

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  • WD6956
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    Ummn,OSHA? And YES,they CAN! T.C.
    OSHA fines people all the time.

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  • Rescue101
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    Ummn,OSHA? And YES,they CAN! T.C.

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  • shmarleybarlow
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    Originally posted by Capt387 View Post
    Negative Duck Dodger, they are part of the suspension system of the helmet, by allowing someone to remove any component of helmet now, in the event of an injury, the 4 letter agency will ask you to get yer 'Ol checkbook out and pay a fine.
    Negative, that four letter agency cannot do that. They are not law enforcement. With all the silly helmet threads, how can this still be a misconception on here?

    They are however, a bunch of civilian pencil pushing statistic crunchers that often lack the ability to use common sense.

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  • Rescue101
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    Originally posted by zackman1801 View Post
    i dont know why you would want to, i dont own a leather so i cant say too much, i was just clarifying that the impact cap and the ratchet system were two different things and were not all once peice in the helmet. I have been TOLD (only told) by people who wear them that with the ratchet system they sit higher than some people like.
    Innards are ADJUSTABLE (if you know what you're doing)at least mine are. The only thing I changed was the pad stuck to the impact cap to a thinner one. Fits fine,mask or no mask. T.C.

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  • sdfd504
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    Originally posted by Capt387 View Post
    Negative Duck Dodger, they are part of the suspension system of the helmet, by allowing someone to remove any component of helmet now, in the event of an injury, the 4 letter agency will ask you to get yer 'Ol checkbook out and pay a fine.
    What happens when the label that has the model number of the helmet comes off even though it says do not remove this sticker? Do you get in trouble for doing that too?

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  • Capt387
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    Originally posted by zackman1801 View Post
    Hes not talking about taking out the impact liner. the impact liner and the ratchet system are seperate.
    Negative Duck Dodger, they are part of the suspension system of the helmet, by allowing someone to remove any component of helmet now, in the event of an injury, the 4 letter agency will ask you to get yer 'Ol checkbook out and pay a fine.

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