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  • BoxAlarm187
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    Originally posted by snowball View Post
    Hey! What about Johnny46 and me?
    Two of the reasons I log on everyday to read the forums.

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  • snowball
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    Hey! What about Johnny46 and me? I miss Mongofire99 and ChicagoFF. Fireman's Firemen, not as$ kissers. Great post brother, you should stick around.

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  • Chenzo
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    Originally posted by NortheastFH View Post
    i'm going to go on a long overdue rant and then I'm done...

    Massfireguy, fffred, and even whocares (though from midwest ... you guys are always refreshing. it takes your kind of years of experience to be able to cut through the crap and bottom line things like you do. no matter what the topic; NFPA bs, tactics, politics or even petty helmet debates. you guys seem to be the only ones that aren't full of crap and hopelessly confused by their lack of experience. This is becoming the "talk" vs the actual "walk" site. and some on here can really spin the crap quite well and give off an air of experience. however, their post content is the real proof in the pudding.

    no matter what thread comes up here, you'll be faced with the same amateurs fighting you to the death. it's a parallel universe made possible in bulk quantities, by the internet.

    Massfire, you were dead on with the youtube comment. Nmfire, was actually banned from a whacker site called elightbars.org. his unbridled sharp tongue got the better of him and on a whacker site nonetheless. he knows more about lights and sirens than the worst hoopie you've seen and has been posting about lights for years. the light interest and years worth of message board posts far outweighs his actual "fire" related postings. i can understand knowing about lights and sirens, but he crosses that threshold of "normal". although, it does sound like he might of grown up a little from his volunteer light days in the recent past.

    Deputymarshal epitomizes the sharp tongue "type" that nmfire displays, but is far more relentless. he will contradict just about anything. people are very careful not to contradict him, because he is like a wordsmith, able to spin almost anything to his advantage in an argument. he also carries his occupation title with him, so people are more respectful to him then they would be if it was another individual posting. If you love this job like me you wouldn't become a fire investigator until you were too old and couldn't do the job anymore. it's not a wonder when this type leaves the job. he did after all come from IT, before getting into the fire svc...just sayin'. from the first time i saw him defend the NFPA, the red flags were up.

    these safety sallies and fire duckers will fight everything. including some of the most fundamental parts of this job. if you doubt me, just look at the thread where these amateurs including pirate boy will even stoop to speak negatively of Ray Mccormack's FDIC speech. thank god for brothers like Ray that are still sticking around the fire service to lead. unfortunately the longer time goes on, the FDNY seems to be the last bastion of this and everything right about this job is becoming the minority, while you jerk off's attempt to discredit them, become the majority. fighting the basics of "putting the fire out" with stupid semantics. again, parallel universe, but true.

    i long for the days of posters like 111truck (RIP), ndemarse, (stopped posting because of the bickering sallies) and others. the good ones don't stoop to bickering with online losers. you won't see many of them here. other good guys that have stuck around are nyckftbl, calmb4storm and the boston guy with the 3/4 boots in his prof. picture.

    this will be my first and only post. thank god for you brothers that are leading the way among this "progressive" generation of wolves in sheep's clothing.
    I know you're not coming back, but GOD DAMN that's a hell of a post. Right on Brother.

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  • JMac73
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    Originally posted by BSFD9302 View Post
    First sorry I have not read all of the posts. I only have a few more minutes before I need to go.

    I have a question, Do the LEOs in this city have these cameras in the police vehicles? I am not asking to be malicious just wondering.

    Also I agree, I have no problem with the cameras myself. Of course that is if the department has all of the equipment in good condition that is needed. No sense in spending money on cameras if bunker gear is needed. If there is a problem, the newer trucks have computers in them that can be downloaded to tell how fast a driver is going. Granted not all vehicle computers show where they are, but if there is an MDT then yes it can be cross referenced to show where they are or even simply use the MDT to determine where and how fast they were going. But it does not show driving habits either.

    I do not like the sound option though. Yes you are at work and an employer has the right to put cameras up except in restrooms, locker rooms or sleeping quarters.

    I really do not understand why the officer does not discipline the driver though. We do. If anything it should be for insubordination for not following the officer's commands.

    Cameras are a double edged sword. When they help it is really not noticed but when it hurts everyone notices.

    There has to be more to the story. What is not being said about why the cameras were purchased and installed. Did they have a high incident rate? Did their insurance costs drop by a large percent?
    The Sheriff's Office does not have theses cameras.

    Lt's in the Dept are micromanaged, just like everyone else. Most discipline is handled at Chief level.

    I don't think we ever had a high incident rate. If you run 100,000 calls a year in a place like this you are gonna have a few wrecks, it is part of the cost of doing business.

    These cameras were originally bought for all BCC (Board of County Comissioner) vehicles.

    They say that our insurance claim dollars are down but who knows, they usually make the numbers say what they want.

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  • BSFD9302
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    First sorry I have not read all of the posts. I only have a few more minutes before I need to go.

    I have a question, Do the LEOs in this city have these cameras in the police vehicles? I am not asking to be malicious just wondering.

    Also I agree, I have no problem with the cameras myself. Of course that is if the department has all of the equipment in good condition that is needed. No sense in spending money on cameras if bunker gear is needed. If there is a problem, the newer trucks have computers in them that can be downloaded to tell how fast a driver is going. Granted not all vehicle computers show where they are, but if there is an MDT then yes it can be cross referenced to show where they are or even simply use the MDT to determine where and how fast they were going. But it does not show driving habits either.

    I do not like the sound option though. Yes you are at work and an employer has the right to put cameras up except in restrooms, locker rooms or sleeping quarters.

    I really do not understand why the officer does not discipline the driver though. We do. If anything it should be for insubordination for not following the officer's commands.

    Cameras are a double edged sword. When they help it is really not noticed but when it hurts everyone notices.

    There has to be more to the story. What is not being said about why the cameras were purchased and installed. Did they have a high incident rate? Did their insurance costs drop by a large percent?

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  • Bones42
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    Originally posted by NakedTillerman25 View Post
    Yeah, I would like to tell the person who came up with COG numbering from NOVA exactly what I think!!! LOL.

    Bones, yeah I got bored...the Watch Desk stinks now and I see there are some hot topics on here.
    hmmm...Watch Desk. Haven't been there in ages...

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  • Catch22
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    Originally posted by Captain Easyrider View Post
    Your Kidding right, did you miss that it is taken care of at the company level, by the officer in charge. Not going to debate percentages with you either or start the vollie vs. career that is not what this is about.
    By the way, do you always obey the speed limit and traffic laws in your POV, if not maybe there should be a camera in your car too. The pd can just mail you a ticket.
    PEACE
    If it's taken care of at the company level, that's great. However, I've seen some of the things in the fire service that are taken care of "at the company level", and at times that means someone looks the other way.

    My POV isn't at issue here. If I opt to speed, I know dang well if I get caught there's going to reprecussions. At the same time, I know if I violate policy at work, there's going to be reprecussions, as does anyone else. Those reprecussions may be as minute as a mention of "hey, that's against policy, don't let me catch you doing it again" up to whatever maximum the disciplinary policy allows.

    And I don't plan on starting a career vs. vollie debate. As a career chief officer I believe that volunteer departments should be held to the same standard in most aspects. As a volunteer chief officer I try to hone my personnel to meet that standard.

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  • BoxAlarm187
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    Originally posted by hwoods View Post
    And you didn't Stop at 18 to get your Passport Stamped??...........
    If only time would allow! I did see the men extinguishing a box truck on fire on the interstate. I'll be by to visit soon.

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  • NakedTillerman25
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    Yeah, I would like to tell the person who came up with COG numbering from NOVA exactly what I think!!! LOL.

    Bones, yeah I got bored...the Watch Desk stinks now and I see there are some hot topics on here.

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  • Captain Easyrider
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    Originally posted by Catch22 View Post
    OK, so you have experience in an urban city, which conistitutes what percentage of US FD's?

    Regardless, you failed to answer the question I posed in regards to whether or not you're going to tell me that nothing in violation of department guidelines/policies ever happens. It may not on your truck, but you're isn't the only truck in the city.
    Your Kidding right, did you miss that it is taken care of at the company level, by the officer in charge. Not going to debate percentages with you either or start the vollie vs. career that is not what this is about.
    By the way, do you always obey the speed limit and traffic laws in your POV, if not maybe there should be a camera in your car too. The pd can just mail you a ticket.
    PEACE

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  • Bones42
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    Originally posted by NakedTillerman25 View Post
    Camera's= BAD JUJU in the Firehouse or the Firetruck. PG Put them in all county owned units and any newer Volunteer Owned units a while back....I like to hit the panic button on them and give a one-fingered salute to the Management of the PGFEMSD
    Wow, tillerman Chris is back! Been a while since you have been posting around here...

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  • Catch22
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    Originally posted by Captain Easyrider View Post
    Did you ever consider that it might not be "stature" but experience that I speak from.
    PEACE
    OK, so you have experience in an urban city, which conistitutes what percentage of US FD's?

    Regardless, you failed to answer the question I posed in regards to whether or not you're going to tell me that nothing in violation of department guidelines/policies ever happens. It may not on your truck, but you're isn't the only truck in the city.

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  • islandfire03
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    Originally posted by NakedTillerman25 View Post
    Camera's= BAD JUJU in the Firehouse or the Firetruck. PG Put them in all county owned units and any newer Volunteer Owned units a while back....I like to hit the panic button on them and give a one-fingered salute to the Management of the PGFEMSD
    Sounds like you are on pre-release from 33

    Those attitudes and worse are the exact reason drive cams were invented. To prevent arseclowns from driving heavy apparatus in unsafe and unprofessional manners.

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  • Captain Easyrider
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    Originally posted by Catch22 View Post
    I have no problem with urban departments, except when people try to use their employment at one as some form of stature.
    Did you ever consider that it might not be "stature" but experience that I speak from.
    PEACE

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  • hwoods
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    Huh??..........

    Originally posted by BoxAlarm187 View Post
    Nope, south of there. Spend a lot of time in 'em though. Hell, I was in gorgeous Prince George's today in fact.

    And you didn't Stop at 18 to get your Passport Stamped??...........

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