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  • #16
    Originally posted by slackjawedyokel View Post
    If you are "trying to get started with your countys volunteer FD" you might want to grow some thicker skin. Again for someone just "starting out" maybe you need to get a good grasp of the basics first before you get involved with something better suited to chief officers.
    I appreciate the advice, I'm spending a lot of time on the basics but I haven't even really started in the training program at this point. It's more me scouring for any resouce I can to learn more at this point.

    The only reason I asked the question was it seemed the reported was taking a dig at the fire service in general and I was curious of the approximate response times for the area of the fire were considered acceptable. I have family that live within a few blocks of that location so the curiosity about it was probably as much from the "Concerned Citizen" side of things as it was from the "I'm looking forward to becoming involved in the fire service.

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    • #17
      You guys are probably right about the "Grow thicker skin" comments, It's been a while since I've had to be low man on the totem pole in just about anything so I may have forgotten the crap that comes along with it. I really do appreciate each of you who took the time to respond.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by EGregory View Post
        You guys are probably right about the "Grow thicker skin" comments, It's been a while since I've had to be low man on the totem pole in just about anything so I may have forgotten the crap that comes along with it. I really do appreciate each of you who took the time to respond.
        This is one of the fields that is truly the case. Thicker the better
        Am I being effective in my efforts or am I merely showing up in my fireman costume to watch a house burn down?” (Joe Brown, www.justlookingbusy.wordpress.com)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by EGregory View Post
          You guys are probably right about the "Grow thicker skin" comments, It's been a while since I've had to be low man on the totem pole in just about anything so I may have forgotten the crap that comes along with it. I really do appreciate each of you who took the time to respond.
          I have to hand it to you...

          For a guy that had his teeth kicked in, you handled it well.

          Everything is a learning experience.

          Carry on sir, just don't over-think your positon.
          HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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          • #20
            Originally posted by PaladinKnight View Post
            I have to hand it to you...

            For a guy that had his teeth kicked in, you handled it well.

            Everything is a learning experience.

            Carry on sir, just don't over-think your positon.
            I agree with the Knight!!
            RK
            cell #901-494-9437

            Management is making sure things are done right. Leadership is doing the right thing. The fire service needs alot more leaders and a lot less managers.

            "Everyone goes home" is the mantra for the pussification of the modern, American fire service.


            Comments made are my own. They do not represent the official position or opinion of the Fire Department or the City for which I am employed. In fact, they are normally exactly the opposite.

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            • #21
              EGregory.. keep in mind that in the firehouse, the breakfast of champions is sarcasm, lunch is criticism, dinner is ballbusting... smartassed comments and lampooning are served as coffee and dessert!
              DeputyChiefGonzo
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              Last edited by DeputyChiefGonzo; 09-23-2010, 11:30 PM.
              ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
              Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                Don't spend a lot of time in the firehouse huh?

                I am a fireman. I excel at certain things.....being a smartass is one of them.
                Ha. Like I have said; We are a Downtown Engine Company, not a Church Group.

                Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                And just for the record, you said there was "A" fire station within 5 miles and 3 within a 10 minutes drive. IMO, 10 minutes of driving time does indeed classify as "not having a fire station within the immediate area." Ten minutes of driving is most likely a 12-15 minute response time by the time you factor in dispatching and turnout time.

                For a paid, city department operating 10 stations, a 12-15 response from the time someone calls is too long.
                People get the fire protection they pay for. If the citizens were (probably are now) concerned, they would have figured out that they built their pretty and new subdivision without the FD being able to meet an NFPA 1710 manning within 8 minutes, as the standard states. But instead, they were probably more concerned about the quality of parks, and how close the grocery store is. Soccer moms rarely think about fire protection, or lack there of till their house catches fire.
                ~Drew
                Firefighter/EMT/Technical Rescue
                USAR TF Rescue Specialist

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by FiremanLyman View Post
                  People get the fire protection they pay for. If the citizens were (probably are now) concerned, they would have figured out that they built their pretty and new subdivision without the FD being able to meet an NFPA 1710 manning within 8 minutes, as the standard states. But instead, they were probably more concerned about the quality of parks, and how close the grocery store is. Soccer moms rarely think about fire protection, or lack there of till their house catches fire.
                  HA you got that right. It also doesn't help that our current city government consists of a real estate developer for a mayor and several real estate agents on the city council. The result is that it's a very developer friendly form of government and many times profitability outweighs common sense in my opinion.

                  Hopefully we'll see some of that change in the upcoming election.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MemphisE34a View Post
                    Don't spend a lot of time in the firehouse huh?

                    I am a fireman. I excel at certain things.....being a smartass is one of them.

                    And just for the record, you said there was "A" fire station within 5 miles and 3 within a 10 minutes drive. IMO, 10 minutes of driving time does indeed classify as "not having a fire station within the immediate area." Ten minutes of driving is most likely a 12-15 minute response time by the time you factor in dispatching and turnout time.

                    For a paid, city department operating 10 stations, a 12-15 response from the time someone calls is too long.
                    Probably why we get along so well,hehe T.C.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by EGregory View Post
                      HA you got that right. It also doesn't help that our current city government consists of a real estate developer for a mayor and several real estate agents on the city council. The result is that it's a very developer friendly form of government and many times profitability outweighs common sense in my opinion.

                      Hopefully we'll see some of that change in the upcoming election.
                      They should understand the value of a buck. If they really want to do something, have them put a hydrant every 500 feet, build a stations about 4 miles apart, buy enough fire equipment to allow the fire department to lower the Class to a 3 and hire about 200 firefighters. Then they will really have something.
                      HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by EGregory View Post
                        Thank you again for the information you posted, the smartass comment at the end just baffles me.
                        Somehow I think that's a common experience for you.
                        Logic and proportion have fallen sloppy dead.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by johnny46 View Post
                          Somehow I think that's a common experience for you.
                          What is that supposed to be a test to see if I'll react the same way again?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by EGregory View Post
                            What is that supposed to be a test to see if I'll react the same way again?


                            Wow, I think I just witnessed your skin growing about an inch thicker.



                            Bravo.


                            I'm thinking about selling tickets now.
                            HAVE PLAN.............WILL TRAVEL

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                            • #29
                              That Too.............

                              Originally posted by PaladinKnight View Post
                              I'm thinking about selling tickets now.

                              Hey...... You just came up with a new Revenue Stream....... Take an old Tractor Drawn Aerial, add a lot of Seats on the Trailer, Dispatch it to all working Fires, AND SELL TICKETS TO THE BEST SEAT IN THE BLOCK.....
                              Never use Force! Get a Bigger Hammer.
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                              Asst. Chief John R. Woods Sr. 1937 - 2006

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