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Dept. taking away Leather Helmets PLEASE HELP!!!

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  • Originally posted by thedozer View Post
    I swore I wouldn't ever enter a helmet thread but here goes...I've seen newer plastic helmets melt, crack in half with a "hit" from a structural falling object of no more than 12 feet, crack with someone standing on it, melt through by dripping hot liquid, and jar the wears head unmercifully when coming in contact with an imovable object.

    3. I;m from the 60's 70's 80's and some of the 90's and have more than 30,000 alarms to which I wore the same helmet. It sure does not look as nice as the day it was fitted for $25.00 but it left the job with me and I never - never got a head injury while wearing it! Strange!

    4. Next is marketing - did anyone ever research where the first plastic helmet come from? And who made the success of it? It seems like anything that works well in this job, AND lasts longer than a single firefighters career is not in the interest of marketing. The sad part is that most of you that are interested and experienced in this job reinvent the old stuff back into focus. Look at hand tools, nozzles, personal lights, gloves, and more.
    I swore I would not get into it but this is just an opinion from an old firefighter.
    .....What?
    Co 11
    Virginia Beach FD

    Amateurs practice until they get it right; professionals practice until they cannot get it wrong. Which one are you?

    'The fire went out and nobody got hurt' is a poor excuse for a fireground critique.

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    • Originally posted by thedozer View Post
      I swore I wouldn't ever enter a helmet thread but here goes...I've seen newer plastic helmets melt, crack in half with a "hit" from a structural falling object of no more than 12 feet, crack with someone standing on it, melt through by dripping hot liquid, and jar the wears head unmercifully when coming in contact with an imovable object.

      3. I;m from the 60's 70's 80's and some of the 90's and have more than 30,000 alarms to which I wore the same helmet. It sure does not look as nice as the day it was fitted for $25.00 but it left the job with me and I never - never got a head injury while wearing it! Strange!

      4. Next is marketing - did anyone ever research where the first plastic helmet come from? And who made the success of it? It seems like anything that works well in this job, AND lasts longer than a single firefighters career is not in the interest of marketing. The sad part is that most of you that are interested and experienced in this job reinvent the old stuff back into focus. Look at hand tools, nozzles, personal lights, gloves, and more.
      I swore I would not get into it but this is just an opinion from an old firefighter.
      I am glad your leather helmet survived almost 4 decades and 30,000 alarms of service. I wish you a long and happy retirement.

      Unfortunately, I can't say that I have enjoyed the same luck with my 3 well maintained Cairns leather helmets. The first one lasted 10 years and was simply no longer serviceable due to cracks and breaking of the leather in the rear brim. I put this down to 10 years of hard use that included live fire training as an instructor. My next helmet lasted 5 years before it simply fell apart, once again at the rear brim. I do give Cairns creit they did warranty replace the shell for free. The replacement last about 5 years and once again the rear brim simply fell apart. That was it for me. I was at a fire school where a vendor was selling out some helmets he was no longer going to carry and I bought a Chieftan plastic traditional look helmet brand new in the box for $50. It was yellow and I had to paint it black so I used grill paint. (If you need to paint a helmet black use this instead of engine black paint. It is made to survive temps up to 1200 degrees F. And it has for over 5 years!) This helmet subjected to the same usage as my leather has survived 5 years with the only damage being my Bourke eye shields are a melted, curled up mess.

      My attitude is if you want a leather helmet, your FD will let you wear it, AND you can afford it...Go ahead and buy it and enjoy. As for me, unless I become a Chief of Department and will NEVER do interior firefighting again, no thank you, I will keep my PLeather helmet!!
      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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