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  • Nfpa 1403

    Looking for some case law or current ways FD's view NFPA 1403. Looking over the 1403 document to me it shows where 1403 does not apply to just burning a building down without any interior or exterior evolutions. Is the purpose of 1403 for having a live fire with evolutions only or is it all inclusive anytime a building is being burned wether there is any training on that building or not.

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    Originally posted by kbarnes660 View Post
    Looking for some case law or current ways FD's view NFPA 1403. Looking over the 1403 document to me it shows where 1403 does not apply to just burning a building down without any interior or exterior evolutions. Is the purpose of 1403 for having a live fire with evolutions only or is it all inclusive anytime a building is being burned wether there is any training on that building or not.
    1403 is indicitive of "live fire training" in that we have been our own worst enemies in the past in freelancing, incorrect ventilation, water source/supply, even use of flammable liquids are but some of the topics addressed. One of the most recent violations of the standard I can remember was down in Florida where a person in charge of a live fire interior (I think) training had his picture published in a local paper with a clear container of flammable liquids he was throwing over the heads of the students onto the fire. 1403, like it or not wether you adopt it or not, if you have a firefighter injury and you were not following it to the letter could and should be deep trouble for those in charge. Research the Lairdsville NY incident it was such a messed up deal from the word go that no one in their right mind would attempt such a scenario knowing what their outcome was.

    If you are referencing in helping someone burn a building to just get rid of it keep one thing in mind, in most states if something goes wrong in a controlled burn and it gets away from you or their is damage to something else not intended to burn you (the person that starts the fire) will be responsible. In my career FD I go look at burn requests (cant be a building, must be trees and felled limbs) I look at the pile and ask their intent and if I deem it safe and within city guidelines we sign a burn permit that is in the end signed by the Chief.
    Am I being effective in my efforts or am I merely showing up in my fireman costume to watch a house burn down?” (Joe Brown, www.justlookingbusy.wordpress.com)

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      Why did you feel the need to post this in two forums?
      Career Firefighter
      Volunteer Captain

      -Professional in Either Role-

      Originally posted by Rescue101
      I don't mind fire rolling over my head. I just don't like it rolling UNDER my a**.

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